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More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
I'm not saying PP doesn't have any talent, but he's certainly no Newey. Just look at what happened with Red Bull when Newey started working on some other projects.DFX wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 19:43They have PP, their aero concepts have being copied throughout the field. PP and the aero team have being doing a solid job, this is not to say that more talent is not welcome but certainly is not the problem. That being said, look at Binotto, he came out of nowhere from the Ferrari hierarchy and many people doubted the move at the time. Sometimes the right people are already in the team waiting to be found out. Mclaren main problem is the way processes are ran in the factory IMO.
Nonserviam85 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 21:14McLaren should had employed Alex Hitzinger as a technical director (Porsche LMP1 Tech Dir.), too bad Apple money lured him away from motorsport.RonDennis wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 16:33You need a strong technical leader, like Mattia Binotto, James Allison, Adrian Newey, but finding one is harder than it sounds. It's clear that the technical department is missing leadership. I'm sure the staff is highly talented, but not everyone is a leader. McLaren probably doesn't even know who was responsible for the sh!t stain they created, because that's what it is. The problem is that it's hard to understand what works and what don't. If you put people in place you also have to give them some time. It is possible, just look at Ferrari. McLaren might not have the same budget as Ferrari or Mercedes, but they certainly shouldn't be fighting Toro Rosso, Sauber, Haas and Force India at every race.KingHamilton01 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 16:09
I would suggest this makes sense as he has been part of the process when the previous season's car's have been built, they also mentioned at time when Boullier resigned they said that this wouldn't be the only change. McLaren need to cough up some money to get a new designer/s now. Then I am not sure what else McLaren plan to do while restructuring the team, but clear that team know's that a fresh approach is needed and people within the team need re-motivating.
Zak Brown still got a lot to do, interesting they mentioned on sky sports F1 build up to race show that previously that communication between departments seemed to be an issue and that McLaren don't react quick enough.
Anyway would be interesting to hear your opinions on where you think McLaren should recruit.
theres an article in which alonso says that MAG ran him into the gravel. i think thats where he lost his place back to MAG, before repassing him. i havent seen any cameras from back there though.Benii6 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 12:12He was fast because he pitted. Fresh softs vs old mediums or even hards on Renault. If he didn't pit, he would most likely finish where he did. So no, it was the right decision. This way he actually had a chance to finish higher.ALO_Power wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 12:01Moving from the pointless anti-Alonso comments that he's toxic and other usual bs, I think pitting under the safety car wasn't the best choice in the end since it got proven that it was better to stay out and defend rather than get fresh rubber and attack. Alonso seemed to have lost a big amount of time behind Magnussen all race out and because all cameras were aiming the front-runners, Magnussen was heavily blocking Alonso in every overtaking move he tried. When he eventually passed, his pace was super fast. So ye, P6 was definitely on the cards.
I think he made a mistake while trying to attack Ocon and it backfired with Kevin overtaking him back.
Here:zoroastar wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 02:08theres an article in which alonso says that MAG ran him into the gravel. i think thats where he lost his place back to MAG, before repassing him. i havent seen any cameras from back there though.Benii6 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 12:12He was fast because he pitted. Fresh softs vs old mediums or even hards on Renault. If he didn't pit, he would most likely finish where he did. So no, it was the right decision. This way he actually had a chance to finish higher.ALO_Power wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 12:01Moving from the pointless anti-Alonso comments that he's toxic and other usual bs, I think pitting under the safety car wasn't the best choice in the end since it got proven that it was better to stay out and defend rather than get fresh rubber and attack. Alonso seemed to have lost a big amount of time behind Magnussen all race out and because all cameras were aiming the front-runners, Magnussen was heavily blocking Alonso in every overtaking move he tried. When he eventually passed, his pace was super fast. So ye, P6 was definitely on the cards.
I think he made a mistake while trying to attack Ocon and it backfired with Kevin overtaking him back.
Still a mystery why Kimi accidentally locking up and hitting Hamilton was given 10 sec penalty plus reprimand while Magnussen intentionally driving Alonso off the track in race was ignored. He's been doing this all season. Almost killed Gasly in Baku by hitting him at 200+ mph. FIA is a joke.DFX wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 05:53Here:zoroastar wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 02:08theres an article in which alonso says that MAG ran him into the gravel. i think thats where he lost his place back to MAG, before repassing him. i havent seen any cameras from back there though.Benii6 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 12:12
He was fast because he pitted. Fresh softs vs old mediums or even hards on Renault. If he didn't pit, he would most likely finish where he did. So no, it was the right decision. This way he actually had a chance to finish higher.
I think he made a mistake while trying to attack Ocon and it backfired with Kevin overtaking him back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QftfXbnoeQs
Driving people off the road is never penalized. Especially on the exit the stewards outright ignore that there are rules against it.M840TR wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 07:37Still a mystery why Kimi accidentally locking up and hitting Hamilton was given 10 sec penalty plus reprimand while Magnussen intentionally driving Alonso off the track in race was ignored. He's been doing this all season. Almost killed Gasly in Baku by hitting him at 200+ mph. FIA is a joke.
They penalized Gasly for the exact same on the exact same corner though.rscsr wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 09:12Driving people off the road is never penalized. Especially on the exit the stewards outright ignore that there are rules against it.M840TR wrote: ↑10 Jul 2018, 07:37Still a mystery why Kimi accidentally locking up and hitting Hamilton was given 10 sec penalty plus reprimand while Magnussen intentionally driving Alonso off the track in race was ignored. He's been doing this all season. Almost killed Gasly in Baku by hitting him at 200+ mph. FIA is a joke.
i believe you are terribly misinformed, his talent has put him in the hunt for numerous titlesZynerji wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 07:34Why am I on thin ice? His choices and behaviors have cost his talent numerous titles, not me.zoroastar wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 06:30it amazes me when some people cant have enough depth to realize that the reasons behind him not being picked up by a top team have nothing to do with how "good" he is. nobody in any top team would ever say that alonso is not good enough. if thats what you are standing on to prove something then you should be careful of thin ice.
No one but back markers want him. Period.
