2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

[charliesmithhd]

Hungary update will be biggest of year for Mclaren, after BCN, in number of updated parts, but they dont expect to jump to top of midfield whit them.

Are there any aspects on the car that give it slow quali pace, but ok race pace? I'm sure this update will try and cure the lack of quali pace.

[Unf]

If the biggest update of year is not expected as way to top of the rest of teams - what kind of "update" will it be? Fake-like? ;/

[adrianjordan]

They need to develop the side pod areas, even compared to sauber, the McLaren looks bare

I agree, but Sauber is the wrong comparison, they have possibly the busiest side pods with all their openings etc!!

[godlameroso]

If the biggest update of year is not expected as way to top of the rest of teams - what kind of "update" will it be? Fake-like? ;/

I guess, they don't know how much of a difference it will make, or if it needs tuning. We'll see.

[godlameroso]

Hungary update will be biggest of year for Mclaren, after BCN, in number of updated parts, but they dont expect to jump to top of midfield whit them.

Are there any aspects on the car that give it slow quali pace, but ok race pace? I'm sure this update will try and cure the lack of quali pace.

Ask Renault.

[BrunoH]

what the hell... now at same level than the williams???? around the last place? anyone know what the hell is going on??

[charliesmithhd]

Don't think they were doing quali runs today

[PhillipM]

what the hell... now at same level than the williams???? around the last place? anyone know what the hell is going on??

1) They were testing parts
2) As I said last week, it's traction heavy here, and they have a car with poor mechanical traction as well as the aero problems - they expected to be near the back there again for qualifying pace on this circuit, just like France.
IF the new bits and pieces work along with the new setup, they're expecting the car to be in the midfield where it should usually be.
Not clear of it.
Not at the front of it.
Not sticking a finger in the air and declaring "that area should be worth 2-3 tenths, they'll be clear of the midfield!" speculative crap.
It should just get them back to their more normal pace around the Q3 cutoff so they can push it further with more upgrades later.

[Big Tea]

They seem to be doing what they should have done very early season, which is establish a baseline of knowledge to build on.
If they go back to known territory, then try the mods one by one (or module by module in some cases) they will have a better understanding of where they are mow and why they are there.
No point putting a roof on if the walls are not level.
Someone seems th be getting their way at last.

[Andres125sx]

I wonder what odds there are on McLaren falling into the hands of a BMW, Mercedes or VW in the next ten years as a whole? I know their applied technologies and road car businesses are doing a lot better than the F1 team is, but what would the selling price need to be for the group and would one of the major car manufacturers want to own them?

In the next ten years Audi, BMW and Mercedes will be 100% focused on FE

[mclaren111]

I think PP has finally got things going the way it should be - Step by Step - Not "rocket ship" every year !!

[Ground Effect]

Whatever is going on, it appears it's a step by step process, no quick fix. You just wonder what the cut off would be before they're fully focused on 2019. Can anybody give an insight to how the new front wing rules would affect current (2018) aero philosophy, would it require a massive overhaul?

[M840TR]

Whatever is going on, it appears it's a step by step process, no quick fix. You just wonder what the cut off would be before they're fully focused on 2019. Can anybody give an insight to how the new front wing rules would affect current (2018) aero philosophy, would it require a massive overhaul?

No cascades; simpler endplates; only two strakes underneath; bit wider. Will effect downforce massively since FW defines how everything behind works. Lap time loss predicted around 1.5 sec.

[Unf]

As I said last week, it's traction heavy here, and they have a car with poor mechanical traction as well as the aero problems

So they have neither traction nor speed... they have nothing...

[ALO_Power]

As I said last week, it's traction heavy here, and they have a car with poor mechanical traction as well as the aero problems

So they have neither traction nor speed... they have nothing...

Ye they have nothing, that's why they were much better in Silverstone. They're good at high speed stuff and high downforce circuits.