2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

[munudeges]

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I would think McLaren were under pressure to announce 'something' to placate their backers and any sponsors they have left.

[munudeges]

If you belive teams REALLY obey gardening leave you live in fairy tail.
He's already on it.

Indeed so. Newey's book was a good laugh. According to him he turned up in August 1997, but a suspiciously Williams looking front wing appeared on the McLaren months before.........

[munudeges]

Matt Morris is out the door. Praise Allah. One step closer to ousting PP now.

Morris has gone but Promodrou won't be going anywhere. Their biggest problem is they haven't had a TD giving clear, unequivocal direction. That matrix structure needs to be completely gutted.

[Nonserviam85]

Don't be surprised if Toro Rosso get Lando or Stoffel traded for an early JK release...

[mclaren111]

I would not mind a trade. They need JK asap !!

[RonDennis]

How good is Norris anyway? It's not exactly like he's dominating the F2 right now.

[godlameroso]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

[RonDennis]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

That's just BS. This guy is obviously highly talented and according to various sources very organized and structured, things that have been missing for years. McLaren has far more problem than just downforce. Some people need leadership to perform and McLaren clearly needs some fresh blood, instead of trying to do everything the McLaren way.

Force India: 2009 pole in Spa.
Toro Rosso: 2015/2016 were great cars.

[godlameroso]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

That's just BS.

Force India: 2009 pole in Spa.
Toro Rosso: 2015/2016 were great cars.

2009 First year of new regulations, where did the FI end up in the race? Or anywhere else that season? They were 9th in the constructors btw.

2015/2016 were mediocre cars with good drivers that could punch above the competition. Not to mention they had the 2015 Ferrari engine which means the 2016 car was good at the start of the season but eventually even the Honda surpassed it.

[McMika98]

Given he had the lowest budget and had to redesign a car almost every year in the last 5 years, yet delivered solid cars is just a massive achievement. This year is one prime example of how good his skills are. They have always been outdeveloped after midseason by big spenders. He is better than anyone out there apart from Newey.

[McMika98]

2015/2016 were mediocre cars with good drivers that could punch above the competition. Not to mention they had the 2015 Ferrari engine which means the 2016 car was good at the start of the season but eventually even the Honda surpassed it.

BS again. The drivers you allude to were rookies that year, didn't have a clue about developing a f1 car. Drove what they were given. Carlos hasnt outperformed Nico this year.

[GoranF1]

I didnt follow fast laps in Fp2.
Did Alonso get perfect lap?
Did they run updates?
Alonso was talking about topping midfield here yesterday.

[RonDennis]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

That's just BS.

Force India: 2009 pole in Spa.
Toro Rosso: 2015/2016 were great cars.

2009 First year of new regulations, where did the FI end up in the race? Or anywhere else that season? They were 9th in the constructors btw.

2015/2016 were mediocre cars with good drivers that could punch above the competition. Not to mention they had the 2015 Ferrari engine which means the 2016 car was good at the start of the season but eventually even the Honda surpassed it.

They ended up second and they only had a couple of months to redesign the car to a Mercedes engine, which meant they aimed their upgrades at certain tracks, like Spa en Monza. Of course they eventually got surpassed by the Honda, because they didn't receive any engine updates. But should we take anything seriously from a guy that still claims that this McLaren isn't that bad of a car? You just sound very sour at everything that they do. If a Toro Rosso car scores a 4th place and is one of the fastest cars on a wet track (with 2 rookies), it's mainly because of the drivers.

[Ground Effect]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

That's just BS.

Force India: 2009 pole in Spa.
Toro Rosso: 2015/2016 were great cars.

2009 First year of new regulations, where did the FI end up in the race? Or anywhere else that season? They were 9th in the constructors btw.

2015/2016 were mediocre cars with good drivers that could punch above the competition. Not to mention they had the 2015 Ferrari engine which means the 2016 car was good at the start of the season but eventually even the Honda surpassed it.

I disagree with you on this. The STR10 and STR11 of 2015 & 2016 respectively, we're very good cars. They fell behind Mclaren when Honda brought more power in 2016 as the season progressed, but check out how the performed at Hungary and Singapore, COTA. Those are chassis circuits, where their power deficit were negated.

[Ground Effect]

JK's only really good car was the 2012 Sauber, and it was only good on a handful of tracks, particularly those which chewed up the Pirelli garbage tires, such an advantage is no longer possible. The McLaren already has very good tire wear, the team needs to put downforce on the car, plain and simple.

That's just BS.

Force India: 2009 pole in Spa.
Toro Rosso: 2015/2016 were great cars.

2009 First year of new regulations, where did the FI end up in the race? Or anywhere else that season? They were 9th in the constructors btw.

2015/2016 were mediocre cars with good drivers that could punch above the competition. Not to mention they had the 2015 Ferrari engine which means the 2016 car was good at the start of the season but eventually even the Honda surpassed it.

I disagree with you on this. The STR10 and STR11 of 2015 & 2016 respectively, we're very good cars. They fell behind Mclaren when Honda brought more power in 2016 as the season progressed, but check out how the performed at Hungary and Singapore, COTA. Those are chassis circuits, where their power deficit were negated.