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Do McLaren have a unique gearbox, or is their gearbox used by other teams as well? Seems like a lot of their retirements were due to a failure of the gearbox

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charliesmithhd wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:32
Do McLaren have a unique gearbox, or is their gearbox used by other teams as well? Seems like a lot of their retirements were due to a failure of the gearbox
McLaren use their own bespoke unit.
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charliesmithhd wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:32
Do McLaren have a unique gearbox, or is their gearbox used by other teams as well? Seems like a lot of their retirements were due to a failure of the gearbox
Possibly down to the limited time they had to adapt it to the Renault PU.
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adrianjordan wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:10
charliesmithhd wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:32
Do McLaren have a unique gearbox, or is their gearbox used by other teams as well? Seems like a lot of their retirements were due to a failure of the gearbox
Possibly down to the limited time they had to adapt it to the Renault PU.
Wouldn’t say so, they’ve had gearbox-related issues for the past few years now.
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Most of the previous failures were put down to vibration issues with the Honda motor and what the K + H were doing during shifts, however. And Honda themselves took some of the rap for that so it wasn't just Mclaren excuses.

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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:23
adrianjordan wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:10
charliesmithhd wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 19:32
Do McLaren have a unique gearbox, or is their gearbox used by other teams as well? Seems like a lot of their retirements were due to a failure of the gearbox
Possibly down to the limited time they had to adapt it to the Renault PU.
Wouldn’t say so, they’ve had gearbox-related issues for the past few years now.
I'm pretty sure they said the gearbox was originally designed for the Honda engine, and retrofitted to the Renault PU. There's bound to be compromises and weaknesses from that.

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Xero wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:45
ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:23
adrianjordan wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:10


Possibly down to the limited time they had to adapt it to the Renault PU.
Wouldn’t say so, they’ve had gearbox-related issues for the past few years now.
I'm pretty sure they said the gearbox was originally designed for the Honda engine, and retrofitted to the Renault PU. There's bound to be compromises and weaknesses from that.
when would they update it then? 2019?

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Alonso went the first 7 races without an issue.

If Alonso retires on the 2nd to last lap when he's out of the points and they say "gear box" I would take that with a grain of salt. Not sure why Vandoorne has been played by them so much.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 20:51
when would they update it then? 2019?
Yes, completely new box next year.

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diffuser wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 21:14
Alonso went the first 7 races without an issue.

If Alonso retires on the 2nd to last lap when he's out of the points and they say "gear box" I would take that with a grain of salt. Not sure why Vandoorne has been played by them so much.
Absolutely agree with this. Am I correct in saying that if you retire from Race A before the chequered flag because of a gearbox issue and replace it before Race B there is no penalty whereas simply replacing a functional gearbox between two race weekends would incur a penalty due to the box not completing the allocated minimum race weekends? I remember Jenson parking up less than 100 yards before the finish line and giving up points for finishing in 6-7th place for this reason once.

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diffuser wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 21:14
Alonso went the first 7 races without an issue.

If Alonso retires on the 2nd to last lap when he's out of the points and they say "gear box" I would take that with a grain of salt. Not sure why Vandoorne has been played by them so much.
He retired from 7th in Monaco with transmission problem.

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M840TR wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 22:11
diffuser wrote:
31 Jul 2018, 21:14
Alonso went the first 7 races without an issue.

If Alonso retires on the 2nd to last lap when he's out of the points and they say "gear box" I would take that with a grain of salt. Not sure why Vandoorne has been played by them so much.
He retired from 7th in Monaco with transmission problem.
oh, you're right and in was the 6th race. I think they need they could change on the 7th race. So I messed up the numbers. At any rate, they shouldn't be having gearbox problems.

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From Hungary tests day 1. Bargeboard view. Shows the distinct mcl33 mid-wing quite clearly.

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McLaren F1:

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New shaped mirror.

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mclaren111 wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 08:42
McLaren F1:

https://media-cdn.mclaren.com/media/ima ... 4I7774.jpg


New shaped mirror.
I think they're the same.