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Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:35
2 are not "several"?
sev·er·al
/ˈsev(ə)rəl/
determiner & pronoun
1. more than two but not many.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/several
several
1. (obsolete) Separate, distinct; particular. [15th-19th century]
2. A number of different; various. (Now merged into later senses, below) [from 16th century]
3. Consisting of a number more than two but not very many; diverse. [from 17th century]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several

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Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:35
diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 19:44
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 17:20



So you recon both cars have had several gearbox problems, but also suggest it is Alonso retiring voluntarily when he´s out of the points? #-o
I don't remember Alonso having "several" gearbox problems. I know he had the one in Monaco for certain. I seem to remember a 2nd one. Yes, when retires when he's out of the points, I wouldn't read too much into the reason they claim he retired.
2 are not "several"?
did stoffel have a gearbox problem in spain?

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roon wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:41
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:35
2 are not "several"?
sev·er·al
/ˈsev(ə)rəl/
determiner & pronoun
1. more than two but not many.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/several
several
1. (obsolete) Separate, distinct; particular. [15th-19th century]
2. A number of different; various. (Now merged into later senses, below) [from 16th century]
3. Consisting of a number more than two but not very many; diverse. [from 17th century]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/several

oops, then I was wrong, in spanish we use it for any plural :oops:

Sorry diffuser :)

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Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 21:09
Sorry diffuser
This is not the Williams thread.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:43
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:35
diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 19:44


I don't remember Alonso having "several" gearbox problems. I know he had the one in Monaco for certain. I seem to remember a 2nd one. Yes, when retires when he's out of the points, I wouldn't read too much into the reason they claim he retired.
2 are not "several"?
did stoffel have a gearbox problem in spain?
Yes

https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/s ... rand-prix/

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roon wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 21:11
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 21:09
Sorry diffuser
This is not the Williams thread.
???

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Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 21:13
charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:43
Andres125sx wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:35


2 are not "several"?
did stoffel have a gearbox problem in spain?
Yes

https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/s ... rand-prix/
If the point you're trying to make is that there are too many then I agree with you. Although with these things you tend to improve the part that broke so it doesn't happen again. In normal circumstances, I don't think the gearbox changes much from 1 year to another.

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Sensor on shark fin

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Flo viz around engine cover and floor

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Old front wing

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Looks like they're still having issues around the sidepod there.

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PhillipM wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 02:30
Looks like they're still having issues around the sidepod there.
This wasn't just a test for the sidepods but the undercut and floor too.

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M840TR wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 02:50

This wasn't just a test for the sidepods but the undercut and floor too.
That's where they've been having problems, right where they meet the floor between the two sculpted cuts. Just below the 'dell technologies' sticker. The flow from the top of the sidepod and the vortex generators rolls over to the underside there.

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PhillipM wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 03:04
M840TR wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 02:50

This wasn't just a test for the sidepods but the undercut and floor too.
That's where they've been having problems, right where they meet the floor between the two sculpted cuts. Just below the 'dell technologies' sticker. The flow from the top of the sidepod and the vortex generators rolls over to the underside there.
At this point I think they have problems everywhere.

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New diffuser

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New front wing

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Rear end

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Via AMuS

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Hungaroring testing,

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PhillipM wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 03:04
M840TR wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 02:50

This wasn't just a test for the sidepods but the undercut and floor too.
That's where they've been having problems, right where they meet the floor between the two sculpted cuts. Just below the 'dell technologies' sticker. The flow from the top of the sidepod and the vortex generators rolls over to the underside there.

I see the "CCC" between the last "L" in DELL and the "h" in Tech on the right side. The air appears to detach there or get turbulent but the flow on the floor is good. I guess the expectation is the air flow stick to the side of that? You can see the air coming down from the top is pulling the air down off the side of the sidepod down to the floor (under hnologi).