Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

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Flovis over the rear suspension.

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dren wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 12:44
They reduce drag.
And add downforce. Tiny bit, but they do.
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I am going to feel a fool when someone confirms the obvious answer, but is that vertical vane steerable? (I know it is not supposed to be, just looking at the way its mounted in the 'box'
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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 14:51
dren wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 12:44
They reduce drag.
And add downforce. Tiny bit, but they do.
Mostly improving L/D ratio then :d

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Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 18:11
I am going to feel a fool when someone confirms the obvious answer, but is that vertical vane steerable? (I know it is not supposed to be, just looking at the way its mounted in the 'box'
It's a pitot tube with carbon bodywork around it, it's not supposed to be any other way. :)

F1NAC wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 20:59
Mostly improving L/D ratio then :d
Pretty much, especially these, now universal, horizontal louvers. Curved ones were directed towards drag reduction.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 21:12
Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 18:11
I am going to feel a fool when someone confirms the obvious answer, but is that vertical vane steerable? (I know it is not supposed to be, just looking at the way its mounted in the 'box'
It's a pitot tube with carbon bodywork around it, it's not supposed to be any other way. :)

F1NAC wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 20:59
Mostly improving L/D ratio then :d
Pretty much, especially these, now universal, horizontal louvers. Curved ones were directed towards drag reduction.
I did know that, but it seems to be mounted on a mechanism in the box. I wondered if it was possible to actually rotate it slightly, although I do not know what advantage it would give, and I know it is not allowed.
It seems a lot of work putting a cowl or horizontal louver on it as it would be quite a small dia tube. ( or they are small dia on planed that travel considerably faster without an aero blend)
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Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 22:46

I did know that, but it seems to be mounted on a mechanism in the box. I wondered if it was possible to actually rotate it slightly, although I do not know what advantage it would give, and I know it is not allowed.
It seems a lot of work putting a cowl or horizontal louver on it as it would be quite a small dia tube. ( or they are small dia on planed that travel considerably faster without an aero blend)
It's still a diameter and as such has 50+ times more drag per frontal surface than an aerofoil of same thickness and length. :) Not to mention the turbulent wake.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:47
Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 22:46

I did know that, but it seems to be mounted on a mechanism in the box. I wondered if it was possible to actually rotate it slightly, although I do not know what advantage it would give, and I know it is not allowed.
It seems a lot of work putting a cowl or horizontal louver on it as it would be quite a small dia tube. ( or they are small dia on planed that travel considerably faster without an aero blend)
It's still a diameter and as such has 50+ times more drag per frontal surface than an aerofoil of same thickness and length. :) Not to mention the turbulent wake.
I knew I was being a div when I posted, but I just had to do it :roll:
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Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:49
I knew I was being a div when I posted, but I just had to do it :roll:
Question everything mate, lack of critical thinking is making the modern homo sapiens into a zombie with one urge - to spend his money on useless crap. :D
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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:54
Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:49
I knew I was being a div when I posted, but I just had to do it :roll:
Question everything mate, lack of critical thinking is making the modern homo sapiens into a zombie with one urge - to spend his money on useless crap. :D
Too much critical thinking means you just have a bunch of critics lying around not making anything for fear of being critiqued, so, hmmm.... Decisions, decisions. Anyway, I'll take the bait and say you are meandering about the edge of the rabbit hole, for it is not Pete O'Tube, it is a possibly a magnetic anomaly detector which allows the Red Horse to trot over higher gravity sections of the track mid-corner, and lower gravity sections of the track along the straights.

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roon wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 18:09
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:54
Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2018, 11:49
I knew I was being a div when I posted, but I just had to do it :roll:
Question everything mate, lack of critical thinking is making the modern homo sapiens into a zombie with one urge - to spend his money on useless crap. :D
Too much critical thinking means you just have a bunch of critics lying around not making anything for fear of being critiqued, so, hmmm.... Decisions, decisions. Anyway, I'll take the bait and say you are meandering about the edge of the rabbit hole, for it is not Pete O'Tube, it is a possibly a magnetic anomaly detector which allows the Red Horse to trot over higher gravity sections of the track mid-corner, and lower gravity sections of the track along the straights.
I am probably not the right one to point out that criticism is not the same as asking questions of?
The biggest word in the english language = why?
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Everyone is raving about Ferrari PU, but let's not forget two very basic changes from last year's race:

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Less rear wing, smaller frontal side pod inlet, big drag saving. There is more drag in barge boards, but that's the same for Merc.
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scarbs wrote:
09 Mar 2018, 19:22

But then I'm just an engineer who became a journalist, who spent all last week actually looking at the cars and talking to the engineers. :lol
What area of engineering did you work in and what qualifications do you have?

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Any updates for Monza?