2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

[Snorked]

Hopefully Marko holds off on making any driver decision until Mercedes decide what to do about their junior program. If it's coming to an end, Ocon and Russell would be a nice pairing.

[ivanlesk]

Hopefully Marko holds off on making any driver decision until Mercedes decide what to do about their junior program. If it's coming to an end, Ocon and Russell would be a nice pairing.

I'm pretty sure that they won't risk having two Mercedes drivers in 2nd team with no backup for 1st.

[Ground Effect]

I like Red Bull, and Really like STR, but I wish Helmut would stop nagging about taking their toys home. Do it or shut up.
It seems every couple of months there is a headline 'Red Bull to quit F1' (and VW to enter).

Reminds me of a guy I used to work with, His wife was always going to leave him if..... They are still married after 30 od years though.

That literally made me laugh out loud

[HPD]

For 2019, Toro Rosso says, "It's not a shortlist, but rather a longlist," smiles the Austrian, adding, "There are ten names on it."
Marko says, "It's not going to be one with a Mercedes tie." However, he also notes, "Everything's possible."
http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/1 ... stieg.html

[Wouter]

I like Red Bull, and Really like STR, but I wish Helmut would stop nagging about taking their toys home. Do it or shut up.
It seems every couple of months there is a headline 'Red Bull to quit F1' (and VW to enter).

Reminds me of a guy I used to work with, His wife was always going to leave him if..... They are still married after 30 od years though.

It is only a headline to interest the readers.

Dr. Marko: "We are happy to have a great partner with Honda for the next few years. However, should this cooperation - for whatever reason - not work as expected, Red Bull would only be leaving the Formula One. »

But Dr. But Marko immediately makes it clear: "The partnership with Honda is going very well so far with Toro Rosso and will continue to work with Red Bull Racing in 2019." The Le Mans winner of the year 1971 already made the optimistic forecast stand out: "We will Clear ahead of Renault in 2019. »

[Ground Effect]

I like Red Bull, and Really like STR, but I wish Helmut would stop nagging about taking their toys home. Do it or shut up.
It seems every couple of months there is a headline 'Red Bull to quit F1' (and VW to enter).

Reminds me of a guy I used to work with, His wife was always going to leave him if..... They are still married after 30 od years though.

It is only a headline to interest the readers.

Dr. Marko: "We are happy to have a great partner with Honda for the next few years. However, should this cooperation - for whatever reason - not work as expected, Red Bull would only be leaving the Formula One. »

But Dr. But Marko immediately makes it clear: "The partnership with Honda is going very well so far with Toro Rosso and will continue to work with Red Bull Racing in 2019." The Le Mans winner of the year 1971 already made the optimistic forecast stand out: "We will Clear ahead of Renault in 2019. »

When will they clear Mercedes and Ferrari? That should be the real target.

[nzjrs]

These guys need to get their elbows out at start and restarts. Most of the time they go backwards or are victim of other driver aggression.

I just saw the onboards and in this case Ericsson just hit him with 2m of track on his right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bCXbKgL_w

Surprising how easily the suspension failed, especially in the context of the Silverstone crash.

[Big Tea]

These guys need to get their elbows out at start and restarts. Most of the time they go backwards or are victim of other driver aggression.

I just saw the onboards and in this case Ericsson just hit him with 2m of track on his right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bCXbKgL_w

Surprising how easily the suspension failed, especially in the context of the Silverstone crash.

I am supprised how quickly they both caught and passed him. he started moving soon enough, just seemed not to pick up.

[Snorked]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ToroRosso/st ... 8940305408

So now that's Hartley and Buemi who've had recent seat fittings.

Do we have the 2019 driver lineup?

[McMika98]

Yes. Sounds like the focus has already shifted to next year chassis. Gasly had his seat fitted at RedBull, and Honda have been eating through RB gearboxes. Expecting to see next year car in Abu Dhabi testing.

[Jerrycobra]

These guys need to get their elbows out at start and restarts. Most of the time they go backwards or are victim of other driver aggression.

I just saw the onboards and in this case Ericsson just hit him with 2m of track on his right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bCXbKgL_w

Surprising how easily the suspension failed, especially in the context of the Silverstone crash.

I am supprised how quickly they both caught and passed him. he started moving soon enough, just seemed not to pick up.

Hartley probably didn't get his clutch bite point right, but he also tends to loose spots on the 1st lap which does not help his cause.

[Karim28]

I see that the TR drivers' starts are very poor
It's rare overtaking the other cars with them
Is it a clutch problem in the car or what ?

[ispano6]

Which races exactly? I thought Gasly had some pretty decent starts. Bahrain and Monza were pretty good, Hungary was pretty decent as well, so was Monaco.

There have been a few times where Gasly held up a faster Hartley at the starts too. Goes to show the best starts are usually by those with the most experience.

It is also possible Honda has the most underdeveloped launch mode or there is a reliability threshold that prevents faster getaways. Or maybe it's just more drag.

[Thunder18]

Alonso had some amazing starts with the Honda powered McLaren, I think both drivers are just too cautious after being taken out at the start a few time this season.

[Thunder18]

I like Red Bull, and Really like STR, but I wish Helmut would stop nagging about taking their toys home. Do it or shut up.
It seems every couple of months there is a headline 'Red Bull to quit F1' (and VW to enter).

Reminds me of a guy I used to work with, His wife was always going to leave him if..... They are still married after 30 od years though.

It is only a headline to interest the readers.

Dr. Marko: "We are happy to have a great partner with Honda for the next few years. However, should this cooperation - for whatever reason - not work as expected, Red Bull would only be leaving the Formula One. »

But Dr. But Marko immediately makes it clear: "The partnership with Honda is going very well so far with Toro Rosso and will continue to work with Red Bull Racing in 2019." The Le Mans winner of the year 1971 already made the optimistic forecast stand out: "We will Clear ahead of Renault in 2019. »

When will they clear Mercedes and Ferrari? That should be the real target.

Honda has always said their goal was to surpass Mercedes and of course I'm sure that's what all manufacturers want to do, but it's highly complex and with gains still being made by Mercedes and now even more so Ferrari, I wonder what Honda have in store. They might no need to make the gains if RB keep producing a dominant chassis, but I would hope that goal is still there and they don't have to rely on RB to improve their situation.