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More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
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Everyone is. Zak probably held a media session at MTC like he does from time to time.Ground Effect wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 13:08https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... 88/?nrt=54
Motorsport.com confirming Fry as well
Very good. Previously worked with Mclaren for many years. Zak also said Andrea Stella will join Fry is setting 2019 performance targets.
Andrea Stella? He's been in Mclaren since Fernando joined in 2015. Or is he moving departments?M840TR wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 13:19Very good. Previously worked with Mclaren for many years. Zak also said Andrea Stella will join Fry is setting 2019 performance targets.
D'oh!ivanlesk wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 10:10Yes, he did. But you wrote:dodds_turbo wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 09:43Correct - he is 1.86m tall (not that giant-like). But he did fail the seat fit for this year's car:
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/20123/oc ... ailed.htmlI presume you were talking about 2019 and his height probably being problem also for next year?(I presume the 2010 car isn't much different)
Well spotted.He's the performance director.Ground Effect wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 13:26Andrea Stella? He's been in Mclaren since Fernando joined in 2015. Or is he moving departments?
I don't think so. Marko hates McLaren, he won't release James Key. They probably asked 20 million for Key, just to annoy them.WaikeCU wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 11:38Actually, now I'm thinking about it.Ground Effect wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 11:21I guess you're right on that. But I honestly wouldn't want Mclaren to deprive Stoffel of any chances to secure a drive. Every race weekend will be an audition for him. I hope he puts in some blinders between Singapore and Abu Dhabi.WaikeCU wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 11:04
There's both sides to the story that's he's not quick enough, but also Mclaren haven't provided well enough for Stoffel to perform on his true potential. It's also not easy to drive alongside a multi time world champion. It's a poisonous gift tbh. When a team/car isn't working then it's crucial to get vital feedback and information. It's more listening to Fernando and keeping him happy, because he has the experience and he has stats to back him up.
Wouldn't be surprised if Lando drives alongside Fernando at Suzuka. The more time he gets in the car, the better.
Mclaren desperately want James Key, but Red Bull doesn't want to release him unless Mclaren can find a reasonable deal. Thus by Suzuka:
- At Mclaren: Lando in, James Key in, Stoffel out?
- At STR: Vandoorne in, James Key out, Hartley out?
Bizarrely, he seems to hate Mclaren more than Mercedes, Ferrari and even Renault!RonDennis wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 14:23I don't think so. Marko hates McLaren, he won't release James Key. They probably asked 20 million for Key, just to annoy them.WaikeCU wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 11:38Actually, now I'm thinking about it.Ground Effect wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 11:21
I guess you're right on that. But I honestly wouldn't want Mclaren to deprive Stoffel of any chances to secure a drive. Every race weekend will be an audition for him. I hope he puts in some blinders between Singapore and Abu Dhabi.
Mclaren desperately want James Key, but Red Bull doesn't want to release him unless Mclaren can find a reasonable deal. Thus by Suzuka:
- At Mclaren: Lando in, James Key in, Stoffel out?
- At STR: Vandoorne in, James Key out, Hartley out?
f1universe wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 17:18In my opinion Stoffel has shown nothing to deserve a place in F1. Yes I'm aware his teammate is Alonso and the car is crap, but the great drivers always show a spark of light no matter what are the circumstances.
I think so, they downfall of McLaren started when he left.
To my knowledge, the only time he's beaten Alonso in quali is when Alonso has had to retire? Heck he isn't even close.WaikeCU wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 10:09I think it's hard to stay confident and positive when the car is just falling apart. I mean how long did it take before the chassis change happened (I thought 2 races). At Hungary he was able to follow Fernando throughout the race, but again had to retire because of technical issues. At FP1 in Spa, he had brake issues, engine issues before he eventually was sidelined because of a floor change. I mean how many issues can you have in 1 day?
His tenure as technical director at Ferrari weren't great but then as a TD you can only be as good as the sum of all the parts. They had correlation problem there too at that time. Depends on what they ask of him. He would make a good temp technical director.
That's mainly because the tools Ferrari were using were ancient compared to McLaren. Italians and Britons are also a terrible combination in my opinion.diffuser wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 16:10His tenure as technical director at Ferrari weren't great but then as a TD you can only be as good as the sum of all the parts. They had correlation problem there too at that time. Depends on what they ask of him. He would make a good temp technical director.