2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

[max_speed]

His tenure as technical director at Ferrari weren't great but then as a TD you can only be as good as the sum of all the parts. They had correlation problem there too at that time. Depends on what they ask of him. He would make a good temp technical director.

yes he is pretty average. at ferrari he sucked big time. i do not think it is a great signing. in short choosing best from rest. i would have loved to see bob fernly in mclaren. he did well in force india.

[Ground Effect]

His tenure as technical director at Ferrari weren't great but then as a TD you can only be as good as the sum of all the parts. They had correlation problem there too at that time. Depends on what they ask of him. He would make a good temp technical director.

yes he is pretty average. at ferrari he sucked big time. i do not think it is a great signing. in short choosing best from rest. i would have loved to see bob fernly in mclaren. he did well in force india.

Bob Fernley was deputy Team Principal, how will he help Mclaren's Technical department? Or do you mean Dave Green?

[RonDennis]

His tenure as technical director at Ferrari weren't great but then as a TD you can only be as good as the sum of all the parts. They had correlation problem there too at that time. Depends on what they ask of him. He would make a good temp technical director.

yes he is pretty average. at ferrari he sucked big time. i do not think it is a great signing. in short choosing best from rest. i would have loved to see bob fernly in mclaren. he did well in force india.

If you're talking about Pat Fry 'sucking big time', you might want to do some research about the positions you're talking about. Because you sound like a fool.

[PhillipM]

It's not really going to make much difference to next years car anyway, most of the base stuff like the chassis, gearbox, etc, are pretty much decided bar tweaks as aero and packaging develops, we already know the chassis/wheelbase is longer, completely new gearbox at the back with new suspension pickups, sidepod entries completely revised, etc.

[RonDennis]

It's not really going to make much difference to next years car anyway, most of the base stuff like the chassis, gearbox, etc, are pretty much decided bar tweaks as aero and packaging develops, we already know the chassis/wheelbase is longer, completely new gearbox at the back with new suspension pickups, sidepod entries completely revised, etc.

I don't even believe these people are actually designing parts. They are there to lead.

[Benii6]

It's not really going to make much difference to next years car anyway, most of the base stuff like the chassis, gearbox, etc, are pretty much decided bar tweaks as aero and packaging develops, we already know the chassis/wheelbase is longer, completely new gearbox at the back with new suspension pickups, sidepod entries completely revised, etc.

Longer wheelbase? Where did you pick up on that?

[PhillipM]

I don't even believe these people are actually designing parts. They are there to lead.

Yes, and to give an overall direction, but that's already decided, all the big stuff and decisions are laid down already.
They're going to be making a difference for 2020 onwards in terms of the performance, next year will just be them restructuring. A few people on here saying 2019 will be crap with this guy or great with this guy are way out on timescales.
This is why Mclaren aren't going to play ball with RB/TR over James Key. They don't care if they have to wait until next year.

[RonDennis]

I don't even believe these people are actually designing parts. They are there to lead.

Yes, and to give an overall direction, but that's already decided, all the big stuff and decisions are laid down already.
They're going to be making a difference for 2020 onwards in terms of the performance, next year will just be them restructuring. A few people on here saying 2019 will be crap with this guy or great with this guy are way out on timescales.
This is why Mclaren aren't going to play ball with RB/TR over James Key. They don't care if they have to wait until next year.

Yeah exactly, seeing Alonso's luck in the last couple of years I wouldn't even be surprised if the cars turns out pretty good.

[Big Tea]

I don't even believe these people are actually designing parts. They are there to lead.

Yes, and to give an overall direction, but that's already decided, all the big stuff and decisions are laid down already.
They're going to be making a difference for 2020 onwards in terms of the performance, next year will just be them restructuring. A few people on here saying 2019 will be crap with this guy or great with this guy are way out on timescales.
This is why Mclaren aren't going to play ball with RB/TR over James Key. They don't care if they have to wait until next year.

Yeah exactly, seeing Alonso's luck in the last couple of years I wouldn't even be surprised if the cars turns out pretty good.

I think Mclaren do tend to have alternate good/bad years (or latterly bad/worse years) so keeping in mind they said this week they 'found something' fingers crossed

[M840TR]

Yes, and to give an overall direction, but that's already decided, all the big stuff and decisions are laid down already.
They're going to be making a difference for 2020 onwards in terms of the performance, next year will just be them restructuring. A few people on here saying 2019 will be crap with this guy or great with this guy are way out on timescales.
This is why Mclaren aren't going to play ball with RB/TR over James Key. They don't care if they have to wait until next year.

Yeah exactly, seeing Alonso's luck in the last couple of years I wouldn't even be surprised if the cars turns out pretty good.

I think Mclaren do tend to have alternate good/bad years (or latterly bad/worse years) so keeping in mind they said this week they 'found something' fingers crossed

Source?

[RonDennis]

Yeah exactly, seeing Alonso's luck in the last couple of years I wouldn't even be surprised if the cars turns out pretty good.

I think Mclaren do tend to have alternate good/bad years (or latterly bad/worse years) so keeping in mind they said this week they 'found something' fingers crossed

Source?

He's just referring to the setup change last weekend. McLaren said some weeks ago that they know what went wrong and that the solutions can't be applied to the 2018 design, which is done for some months now.

[Big Tea]

Yeah exactly, seeing Alonso's luck in the last couple of years I wouldn't even be surprised if the cars turns out pretty good.

I think Mclaren do tend to have alternate good/bad years (or latterly bad/worse years) so keeping in mind they said this week they 'found something' fingers crossed

Source?

As Ron Dennis says ( the poster not the manager), that is what I refer to. Did a quick search but can not seem to come up with it. He said something along the lines after qualifying. He did not say what though.

[BrunoH]

yeah they might have discovered that having a low donwforce setup at a low downforce track does make an improvment hehehehehehehhe

[mclaren111]

yeah they might have discovered that having a low donwforce setup at a low downforce track does make an improvment hehehehehehehhe

[McG]

yeah they might have discovered that having a low donwforce setup at a low downforce track does make an improvment hehehehehehehhe

This.

Alonso said they "found something", probably referring to the setup for that race or even in himself, then Kravitz kind of blew it up, intentionally or not I don't know. Waffle definitely didn't find anything.

Ugh. Hardly.