2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

[etusch]

Which races exactly? I thought Gasly had some pretty decent starts. Bahrain and Monza were pretty good, Hungary was pretty decent as well, so was Monaco.

There have been a few times where Gasly held up a faster Hartley at the starts too. Goes to show the best starts are usually by those with the most experience.

It is also possible Honda has the most underdeveloped launch mode or there is a reliability threshold that prevents faster getaways. Or maybe it's just more drag.

This doesn't look so good
https://twitter.com/MrAlexF1/status/1037031336190648322

[ispano6]

Which races exactly? I thought Gasly had some pretty decent starts. Bahrain and Monza were pretty good, Hungary was pretty decent as well, so was Monaco.

There have been a few times where Gasly held up a faster Hartley at the starts too. Goes to show the best starts are usually by those with the most experience.

It is also possible Honda has the most underdeveloped launch mode or there is a reliability threshold that prevents faster getaways. Or maybe it's just more drag.

This doesn't look so good
https://twitter.com/MrAlexF1/status/1037031336190648322

Which part?

[ispano6]

STR Honda pace isn't looking too good with the rookies. Makes you wonder if perhaps Honda should have brought Spec 3 just to fit it and eat the penalty in the event of a poor qualifying. Then at least Japan and the rest of the races can be penalty free.

[godlameroso]

It's practice, the race pace wasn't too bad, let's see what they turn up with tomorrow, I agree with you though, it's not looking good so far.

[restless]

Gasly said that the car was not stable, altho they use the package from Monaco and Hungary
Maybe the "green" track is bad for the chassis?
If there is no rain today they could look better

[McMika98]

They have setup for low deg and cannot even get optimum temp on hypersoft for one lap. Should be able to dial it up in Q3. Renault pace over one lap looks tremendous but after few laps the pace drop off is precipitous. TR exactly the opposite. They need to screw the deg and push for Quali position.

[bigblue]

Thought this was interesting.

However, Red Bull is losing a key man in the form of James Key, a highly respected technical director at the junior team Toro Rosso.

But Newey said: "We are very careful and respectful of the rules regarding common parts. As far as it is permitted it makes sense, but Key was sometimes a bit negative. I don't want to say more."

More at http://grandprix.com/news/newey-says-fu ... on-f1.html

[Singabule]

Thought this was interesting.

However, Red Bull is losing a key man in the form of James Key, a highly respected technical director at the junior team Toro Rosso.

But Newey said: "We are very careful and respectful of the rules regarding common parts. As far as it is permitted it makes sense, but Key was sometimes a bit negative. I don't want to say more."

More at http://grandprix.com/news/newey-says-fu ... on-f1.html

He want independent team or lead RB, but seeing Newey back resulting in Mclaren move.

[ispano6]

If reports are true and Honda brings Spec 3 to Sochi, it will be quite a day of announcements. Daniil Kvyat seems to have already signed so we might see him looking upbeat.
On the other hand Hartley seems despondent with the comments he made about how STR "talked up" the Singapore race. He's also acknowledged that the car updates didn't deliver as expected so there does seem to be a bit of stagnation at STR possibly caused by Key's departure to McLaren. Hopefully STR's next update will maximize Honda's engine upgrades.

[Raleigh]

Thought this was interesting.

However, Red Bull is losing a key man in the form of James Key, a highly respected technical director at the junior team Toro Rosso.

But Newey said: "We are very careful and respectful of the rules regarding common parts. As far as it is permitted it makes sense, but Key was sometimes a bit negative. I don't want to say more."

More at http://grandprix.com/news/newey-says-fu ... on-f1.html

He want independent team or lead RB, but seeing Newey back resulting in Mclaren move.

Exactly. James Key is too good to be just the guy who integrates Red Bull listed parts into a chassis Haas style.

[Big Tea]

If reports are true and Honda brings Spec 3 to Sochi, it will be quite a day of announcements. Daniil Kvyat seems to have already signed so we might see him looking upbeat.
On the other hand Hartley seems despondent with the comments he made about how STR "talked up" the Singapore race. He's also acknowledged that the car updates didn't deliver as expected so there does seem to be a bit of stagnation at STR possibly caused by Key's departure to McLaren. Hopefully STR's next update will maximize Honda's engine upgrades.

Worth remembering though what is the job of STR. Better to try suspect upgrades on the training team than the boss team. I doubt we will see a huge amount from STR now, they would probably prefer a nice landmark so they can get a better idea of what changes to the power unit really mean.

[BrunoH]

new engine upgrade Spec3 for russian GP ? 35hp more? 965hp compared to Renault 950 Spec C ?

Mclaren must feel like it make all the wrong moves again..

[Bill]

Renault started the season with 950 , the upgrade that Honda brought to Canada matched Renault or slightly exceeded them .Renault also bought an upgrade in Canada. Numbers that gets thrown around are pure rubbish

[Thunder18]

Renault started the season with 950 , the upgrade that Honda brought to Canada matched Renault or slightly exceeded them .Renault also bought an upgrade in Canada. Numbers that gets thrown around are pure rubbish

So is Renaults 950 that you say also rubbish??

[Bill]

No that 950 come Remi their engine technically director not journalist