I doubt BMW, don't know about Cosworth.
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More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
I doubt BMW, don't know about Cosworth.
Stop with the New Engine regs for 2021. We're at the END of 2018 and they still haven't decided what they're gonna do(aka it's already too late for 2021). They have so many other things planned for 2021, changing PU reg would just conflate the results of those other changes.
I don't expect that much will change. 2021 is still three years away and it's pretty likely that the difference between the engines will be much smaller by then. They should focus on higher revs and the much needed budget cap.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 23:26Stop with the New Engine regs for 2021. We're at the END of 2018 and they still haven't decided what they're gonna do(aka it's already too late for 2021). They have so many other things planned for 2021, changing PU reg would just conflate the results of those other changes.
BMW back in F1 is the stuff of dreams. But they only see electric in their future. And given Mercedes' current dominance there's an even greater reluctance to join. Porsche was the only serious candidate, although even those reports have gone mute. Horner doesn't expect the same formula till 2023 for nothing.Jackles-UK wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018, 02:21I get the feeling that if costs were reduced sufficiently enough to entice the likes of Cosworth (who even struggled to make ends meet in the V8 era), BMW or the likes of Porsche then McLaren might just be tempted to have a go themselves. They already have experience of hybrid power trains with their road car division and this would give them a true works engine with 100% control over every part of the design. All this is relative though as I sadly don’t see engine costs dramatically falling any time soon.
What are you onto?
Personal feeling or concrete info?
I agree that Ferrari wouldn't supply Mclaren, but I think Mercedes possibly could if they weren't already supplying 2 other teams. It has already been said multiple times that Honda would be open to supplying Mclaren again, though more than likely only as a customer team. But if RBR were to pull out of the sport then, unless Honda bought the team from them, I could imagine a situation where Mclaren once again became the works Honda team.taperoo2k wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 18:51They need a solid foundation to work from, it will help if they produce a decent car that can do battle in the midfield and possibly come out on top. I think it's foolish at this stage to expect McLaren to be right up at the front in 2019.
As for the PU ? They are stuck with Renault for the time being, bridges are burned with Mercedes and Honda at this point (or so it seems) and I doubt Ferrari would supply McLaren with PU's unless forced to by the FIA. McLaren just have to hope Renault gets on top of it's PU issues and claws it's way to the performance levels of Mercedes and Ferrari, and then produce a better car than the works Renault team. We'll see if Ron Dennis is correct that you can't win in F1's current regulations as a customer team.
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As for updates in general ? Given the front wings are changing in 2019 along with a few other bits, I expect there's not much point in bringing new updates unless it gives a big performance boost thus a bigger points haul. Minds will be concentrated on 2019 for most of the teams save perhaps Mercedes and Ferrari.
Thats is a bit too simplified. Daimer owned a majority of McLaren upto 2009, being what AMG Mercedes Petronas is now. They sold the shares back to the original shareholders making McLaren an independent team again. The only possibility to be a works team agains was to partner up with someone, like Renault did with RedBull. Just like now for RedBull, Honda was and is the only logical solution to new big succes. It wasn't that Mercedes already had too many teams or logistical trouble. They just ended the works status with McLaren when they sold the company.
They've already changed their mind about it... they are customers from Renault already.
"I can understand the scepticism of the teams, but we are not recruiting someone of the calibre of Marcin in a position of executive director JUST for what he knows of the other teams," Abiteboul told Autosport, saying he believed Renault had agreed a plan for Budkowski's employment with the FIA that was "extremely fair with everyone".