Briatore: We have been buggered

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Briatore says F1 needs an overhaul

By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 11:16 GMT


Renault team boss Flavio Briatore believes Formula One needs an overhaul in order to satisfy the fans and get the teams to have a bigger say.

The Italian also feels the sport is hurting due to Max Mosley focusing on his personal problems.

"His absence is felt as there's no project for F1. The teams feel abandoned," Briatore told Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper.

Speaking about the issues Formula One is facing, Briatore said: "The Concorde agreement, the number of races, the costs, the spectacle, the imperative increase of revenues. Formula One needs to be re-designed.

"I feel that it should be down to the teams to decide, by electing in turns a director of operations. A guy who does things, not a PR person.

"On top of that, we need to decide with a 51% majority, not unanimously like now, otherwise we'll carry on being stuck."

He added: "Nowadays Ecclestone takes 50% of all revenues, but we are supposed to be able to reduce our costs by 50%.

"How? Starting from the engines. Making them more environment-friendly, accepting Mosley's challenge of reducing fuel consumption by 50% by 2015, while cutting the high costs of the engine themselves and also cutting the staff.

"The problem is that us, Renault, have stuck to the letter of the current regulations on frozen engines, and we've been buggered: others didn't do that and are far ahead, while we suffer. It's not fair."

Briatore and the rest of team principals and other officials will meet today in Maranello to discuss the future of the sport.
This interview points to the difficulty that F1 is facing. The teams cannot effectively formulate the rules for the future.

I find it very positive that Briatore approves of the majority voting. If everything else that Max Mosley has done in F1 is abolished this is the one thing they should keep.

He also does not oppose the main objectives of increasing the entertainment, cutting fuel consumption by half and reducing cost to 50%. Those are good objectives but as always the devil is in the detail.

The issue of the number of races can only go in one direction. More reces and less testing. The test sessions one week before Silverstone and Hockenheim are completely ludicrous. With a rigid test schedule of say three tests per season and 5-8 test days per car between seasons it should be possible to do 24 races going from begin of February to end of October. In summer they should have a 3 week break. New races should be selected in order to be run in the southern hemishere or at least in places where you can run in Feb, March, Sept and Oct.

This idea of having an operations director sounds like Bernie is thinking of retirement. As long as Bernie is there nobody will direct anything but the schedeule for cleaning the heads.
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imho should be moved into the technical regulations thread has this speaks a lot about this, what you think?

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Ogami musashi wrote:imho should be moved into the technical regulations thread has this speaks a lot about this, what you think?
I dunno - ignore most of the text and look into this interesting question (and the thread title)

"The problem is that us, Renault, have stuck to the letter of the current regulations on frozen engines, and we've been buggered: others didn't do that and are far ahead, while we suffer. It's not fair."

He is obviously alluding to other engine suppliers bending the rules.

Does anyone have any idea of the type of development that might be going on?

Or is Flavio a fool? (hugely tongue on cheek comment BTW ;))

Was it Colin Chapman who said...........

"Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the interpretation of wise men"

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Renault began cutting staff a year ago and now is suffering because of it.
Came on!, Flavio praised himself of running a winning team with less resources, now that he's not successful anymore he's wining about it!

Ferrari and McLaren seem to have done big improvements to their power plants.
However I don't think they're doing anything illegal.
McLaren claims improvements in the fuel, oil system and differential.
Should we add the paddle shift to that?
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sebbe wrote:McLaren claims improvements in the fuel, oil system and differential.
Should we add the paddle shift to that?
How are any of them to do with the powerplant itself?
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We had a discussion about this a month or two ago. It was Renault making the same noises then, too. Seems they took the rule too literally, while everybody else keeps making stacks of 'reliability' modifications to their engine. As they make more reliability mods they can run the engine leaner, hotter, or with more revs.
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zac510 wrote:or with more revs.
- Hopefully not ;)

It does seem to be a case of sour grapes by Flav (and possibly an element of smokescreen). If it's allowed in the rules - they SHOULD be doing it. F1 is all about pushing the boundaries as far as possible in every area.

So, Flav is admitting that Renault are knowingly giving away a competetive advantage?

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RH1300S, do you recall which team was pushing strongest for the engine freeze?
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zac510 wrote:RH1300S, do you recall which team was pushing strongest for the engine freeze?
lol hmm, wasn't it someone beginning with R? :D

It's Renaults fault for NOT pushing the boundaries of the engine regulations -- that's the whole point of F1!

Sure, let them open up the engine development again. I'd love to see those engines spinning at 21,000rpm!
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i thought the whole point of f1 is to showcase your latest technology.
whats with all the restriction and rules?
let the engineers to do what they want.
if they want more competitive racing why dont they just give all the teams identical cars like they do in GP2?
absolutely ridiculous

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Briatore and the rest of team principals and other officials will meet today in Maranello to discuss the future of the sport.

:lol: :lol:
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freedom_honda wrote:i thought the whole point of f1 is to showcase your latest technology.
Which decade are you talking about? Or are you just believing the marketing hype..
No good turn goes unpunished.