Depends how the series' evolve over the next few years. In the UK the key advantage Formula E has is that it is on free to air TV. The motorsports purists may find Formula E a bit gimmicky with fan boost and the mario kart stars which are coming this year - I'm reserving judgement on the latter until I see it in action. I don't see it as a one or the other personally, I watch both on top of other motorsports. I think the racing in Formula E has been consistently good, while F1 has suffered at bit on excitement since the 2017 rules.
When Adrian Newey designs an FE car that is faster than the fastest F1 car?
- When manufacturers join FE or shift their budget towards FE.
A half of that is already accomplishedWaikeCU wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 06:50- When manufacturers join FE or shift their budget towards FE.
- If FE starts to have more manufacturers, visit more big cities and have more big names and talented drivers on the grid than F1.
- If the fans popularity is growing each season and F1’s popularity is declining.
- If the FE grid is larger than F1.
- If the FE car goes faster than an F1 car.
I'd say it's mainly the big money and esteem.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 09:17Cars speed is too far tough, wich is the reason talented drivers still go to F1
You're forgetting Mahindra, Nio, DS and Venturi (though I'm not sure the latter have any large scale production models). So on top of attracting existing/traditional automotive OEM's they have the developing ones plus interest from India and China. Nine of the eleven teams have OEM backing - the only exceptions are Virgin (a huge multinational conglomerate) who are using Audi powertrains and Dragon who have Penske designed motors. I suppose you could count HWA this season as a customer of Venturi before becoming a full Mercedes factory team next season. Plus Porsche are joining for season 6. Formula E not only has more manufacturers but also more teams competing and is expanding with a waiting list of serious interest (not Stefan GP or dodgy Russians).Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 09:17There are more manufacturers involved in FE: Renault, Audi, Jaguar, Nissan, BMW and Mercedes has also been anounced
Agree, but I think it´s all related, F1 money and esteem comes from being considered the pinnacle of motorsports, wich has been the case because it´s been the fastest cars out there since the beginning of motorsports, or at least the fastest wich survivedmzso wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 12:06I'd say it's mainly the big money and esteem.Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 09:17Cars speed is too far tough, wich is the reason talented drivers still go to F1
I was not listing all the manufacturers involved, just some from memory, but thanks for the clarification, very informativejjn9128 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 12:53You're forgetting Mahindra, Nio, DS and Venturi (though I'm not sure the latter have any large scale production models). So on top of attracting existing/traditional automotive OEM's they have the developing ones plus interest from India and China. Nine of the eleven teams have OEM backing - the only exceptions are Virgin (a huge multinational conglomerate) who are using Audi powertrains and Dragon who have Penske designed motors. I suppose you could count HWA this season as a customer of Venturi before becoming a full Mercedes factory team next season. Plus Porsche are joining for season 6. Formula E not only has more manufacturers but also more teams competing and is expanding with a waiting list of serious interest (not Stefan GP or dodgy Russians).Andres125sx wrote: ↑15 Oct 2018, 09:17There are more manufacturers involved in FE: Renault, Audi, Jaguar, Nissan, BMW and Mercedes has also been anounced
Nissan have just announced Shell as one of their backers - it is a series manufacturers and sponsors want to be associated with for their "green"/"eco" credentials. Whether that is in lieu of actual progress and change is yet to be seen, but big oil companies are all expanding into renewables.
They will now do a whole (45min) race on 1 battery, 250kW peak power, top speed ~280km/hr.graham.reeds wrote: ↑16 Oct 2018, 23:32What speed are they achieving now and how long can they run?