Team: Eric Boullier (RD), Tim Goss (TD), Simon Roberts (OD), Matt Morris (Engineering Director), Peter Prodromou (CTO), Guillaume Cattelani (HA), Richard Frith (HVP), Stephen Watt (Head of Electronics), Marianne Hinson (Aerodynamic Process Manager), Christian Schramm (Head of Racing Technology), Hiroshi Imai (CRE), Mark Ingham (Head of Design), Kari Lammenranta (CM), Paul James (TM), Jonathan Neale (COO), Neil Oatley (Director of Design & Development)
Drivers: Fernando Alonso (14), Stoffel Vandoorne (2)
Team name: McLaren Honda
If it's all new, then it will need development and reliability can't be guaranteed. It's about long-term strategy instead of short-term race results. Do Renault or McLaren have a dyno to run the power units in a complete chassis yet?M840TR wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 13:10As long as it's reliable...charliesmithhd wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 11:16Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/
McLaren don't have a dyno from what ive read in the past, I think this show's that Renault and McLaren short-term need to form a close collaboration with each other, surprising in a way that McLaren have gone with another fuel supplier for 2019 I would have thought using the same fuel would be an advantage?JordanMugen wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 11:23If it's all new, then it will need development and reliability can't be guaranteed. It's about long-term strategy instead of short-term race results. Do Renault or McLaren have a dyno to run the power units in a complete chassis yet?M840TR wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 13:10As long as it's reliable...charliesmithhd wrote: ↑18 Oct 2018, 11:16Renault introducing completely new engine in 2019
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... e/3196859/
KingHamilton01 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 13:59McLaren don't have a dyno from what ive read in the past, I think this show's that Renault and McLaren short-term need to form a close collaboration with each other, surprising in a way that McLaren have gone with another fuel supplier for 2019 I would have thought using the same fuel would be an advantage?JordanMugen wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 11:23If it's all new, then it will need development and reliability can't be guaranteed. It's about long-term strategy instead of short-term race results. Do Renault or McLaren have a dyno to run the power units in a complete chassis yet?
Hopefully Renault going in the right direction with new engine.
Usually, but then Renault have said their current lubricants/fuels are what's holding back Spec C from being as reliable as they want, so maybe they're getting a bit of an arms race going to see who can come up with something better.KingHamilton01 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 13:59surprising in a way that McLaren have gone with another fuel supplier for 2019 I would have thought using the same fuel would be an advantage?
Where did you get these figures?ESPImperium wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 21:53The McLaren and Petrobas deal is a €12m (€9m Technichal/€3m Cash) deal and its a one year deal. Petrobas spends €140,000 for every day they test new fuels/lubricants in the Renault Dynos, they have spent 20 days this year i hear. Renault do give them 5 days free, but Petrobas has taken 20 days more.
BP do suffer with engine knock, but they will catch up. If they catch up, the Renault in the back of the McLaren will be a powerful combination next year of the Ciry guys hit it off.
A medium downforce RW but without endplate slots.diffuser wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 22:38Couple of pics from today...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp5dkVKXgAAji_G.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp4ndI-W4AI0Cdm.jpg
I saw that and wondered the same thing....maybe a change for nex year? Maybe cause of the rain they added df and will remove depending on the conditions?M840TR wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 02:17A medium downforce RW but without endplate slots.diffuser wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 22:38Couple of pics from today...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp5dkVKXgAAji_G.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp4ndI-W4AI0Cdm.jpg
They needed to add downforce because it's a high DF circuit. But the slots were removed to reduce drag. It's a trade off.diffuser wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 16:16I saw that and wondered the same thing....maybe a change for nex year? Maybe cause of the rain they added df and will remove depending on the conditions?M840TR wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018, 02:17A medium downforce RW but without endplate slots.diffuser wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 22:38Couple of pics from today...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp5dkVKXgAAji_G.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dp4ndI-W4AI0Cdm.jpg
From what i read earlier in the year, can't remember where, but its what i read and if i remember there was a video or podcast about the fuels and how much they cost to run on the Dyno for testing.M840TR wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 22:24Where did you get these figures?ESPImperium wrote: ↑19 Oct 2018, 21:53The McLaren and Petrobas deal is a €12m (€9m Technichal/€3m Cash) deal and its a one year deal. Petrobas spends €140,000 for every day they test new fuels/lubricants in the Renault Dynos, they have spent 20 days this year i hear. Renault do give them 5 days free, but Petrobas has taken 20 days more.
BP do suffer with engine knock, but they will catch up. If they catch up, the Renault in the back of the McLaren will be a powerful combination next year of the Ciry guys hit it off.
I disagree it's the opposite.kfrantzios wrote: ↑21 Oct 2018, 00:21The slots reduce drag. Removing them increases drag.
It's the opposite. Some sites, mainly motorsport group, reported that but later we saw in pics of flo-viz testing on the Ferrari that it helps increase the upwash. Also everyone dropped it for low-downforce tracks, so.kfrantzios wrote: ↑21 Oct 2018, 00:21The slots reduce drag. Removing them increases drag.
