
My point being is I don't want to see AV's go down this road of ultimate authority going to the computer because as you've essentially pointed out before - computers don't make mistakes, but their programmers most certainly do.
The UK's roads are as safe as they ever have been, to be fair. Fewer than 1800 deaths per year for several years now, injuries dropping too. Scandinavian countries are about the best.
EXACTLYThis is where this whole development is counter-productive. The AV idea obviously comes out from wanting the roads to be a safer place. Yet by developing driver aids, we are directly encouraging drivers who are now more and more relying on these automatism's and driver aids (that will eventually progress to autonomous vehicles) to rely more on the tech rather than their own instincts and ability. In other words; We are encouraging less attention while driving, because there's a driver assistance module that will "jump in" warn and supposedly save the day. Until it doesn't.
A friend of mine's parking sensor was broken/blocked. Guess what happened? Drove right into the pillar of an underground parking in reverse. Extensive damage. Thanks to all these gadgets, people are becoming more and more reliant on them, to the point they fully trust it and are hopelessly inapt to doing it how they once learned it when they learned how to drive. Same applies to all other gadgets that are finding their way into modern cars.
I can already see the first big accidents coming with semi assisted AVs when people will be reading newspapers while on their commute to work, only to crash because the car overlooked something obvious to the human-eye/brain, but not the AV.
I get the point that the tech will not evolve over night, but it is scary to think how all the effort being sunk into this kind of tech only really makes us more muted as we give up our responsibilities to a piece of software.
We already have something like that with modern cars that apply brakes at a given corner of the car to "aid" us in negotiating a corner.Just like an AV might block the steering or throttle inputs of the driver
Uh, not on a public road I don't. And for those who think power sliding around the streets is ok, modern cars generally have a button to disable stability control. It's intended for use in particular situations, but I guess you can use it lay down rubber if you like.
Are you actually suggesting that only a human can tackle adverse conditions? Here's an obtuse one. What about if a meteor filled with super AIDs is heading towards your car. An Av might spot it and take evasive action...strad wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 02:54Jeeeez
I am not talking about for fun!!!!!!
There are times when inducing power oversteer is the correct way to counter adverse conditions. Any one that can't use their throttle when necessary to control their car should not be driving.
In my Cadillac driver assist was on any time you didn't turn it off.
Is that really what you think? That I'm some kid doing donuts?
You ever drive on ice?
Are you being argumentative or obtuse or just kidding?
You know, you may be onto something here. Perhaps the whole thing needs rethinking.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 01:11Uh, not on a public road I don't. And for those who think power sliding around the streets is ok, modern cars generally have a button to disable stability control. It's intended for use in particular situations, but I guess you can use it lay down rubber if you like.
As stated, the systems usually have a button to allow one to disable them for particular situations. Driving on snow/ice where the system might be a hindrance is one such situation.