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I'm quite excited how preseason-testing is going to pan out.Wazari wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 07:44Maybe, just maybe...........RBR, STR and Honda are looking past 2019. Maybe the three are working together with a particular strategy for 2019 to ultimately try and benefit all three for 2020. Perhaps there are 3 to 5 PU upgrades in the pipeline for 2019. RBR's strategy would be to garner as many points for WCC standings in 2019. STR would be used to introduce as many upgrades as Honda deems suitable for racing in 2019. The current limits on testing allowed along with component penalties dictates PU strategy in conjunction with each team's overall agenda.
Exactly. I think all 3 (4 if you also count ExxonMobil) partners know that they still have some ground to catch up. Sacrifying TR for another year or even two... is simply the best way to allow Honda to test everything on track asap that comes out of the R&D department while still optimizing the WCC chances for RBR. To sum it up: Because they can.Wazari wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 07:44Maybe, just maybe...........RBR, STR and Honda are looking past 2019. Maybe the three are working together with a particular strategy for 2019 to ultimately try and benefit all three for 2020. Perhaps there are 3 to 5 PU upgrades in the pipeline for 2019. RBR's strategy would be to garner as many points for WCC standings in 2019. STR would be used to introduce as many upgrades as Honda deems suitable for racing in 2019. The current limits on testing allowed along with component penalties dictates PU strategy in conjunction with each team's overall agenda.
They should synchronize their propaganda with Honda, because they keep talking about 3 engines in interviews. (Not that anyone believes it)
For a Honda engineer, the main objective should be 3 PU per year.
Redbull always says they can up very fast when they started from back. So if Honda can do at least what they do in 2018, that is , if they can finish every race without problem , Redbull can fight for wcc. 5-6 win for Redbull and remained for Ferrari and Mercedes? Then it is possible to win wccKarim28 wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 21:13I think RedBull's directors wouldn't care about how many races they will be penalized in if they finished the season with 5-6 wins.
The main target for 2019 is getting some wins whenever it's possible so that Honda would retake its reputation and Redbull shows that its bet on Honda and that the problem was with Renault is right
I completly understand what you're saying and it isn't that unlikely, as they did it already last season on some races (at least in FP)Big Tea wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 00:21Can someone please clarify for me if an engine spec has to be sequential in all issues? For an extreme example, can one STR run a different 'spec' or version to the other one
Call it A and B originally in STR cars, and one car takes the C and the other the D. Once RBR need a new unit they take a E spec. and an F spec etc ? (sorry for the over complication and unlikely scenario)
5 if you count IHI(turbo) and 6 if you count Yuasa(upgraded battery and recovery systems). A little while back you posted about IHI's further involvement for 2019 and this is probably going to be a key development. I'm hoping that Honda F1 Racing extends it's pool of resources to include research that has been done in academia that should help in the battery and ERS department.gandharva wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 14:17Exactly. I think all 3 (4 if you also count ExxonMobil) partners know that they still have some ground to catch up. Sacrifying TR for another year or even two... is simply the best way to allow Honda to test everything on track asap that comes out of the R&D department while still optimizing the WCC chances for RBR. To sum it up: Because they can.Wazari wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 07:44Maybe, just maybe...........RBR, STR and Honda are looking past 2019. Maybe the three are working together with a particular strategy for 2019 to ultimately try and benefit all three for 2020. Perhaps there are 3 to 5 PU upgrades in the pipeline for 2019. RBR's strategy would be to garner as many points for WCC standings in 2019. STR would be used to introduce as many upgrades as Honda deems suitable for racing in 2019. The current limits on testing allowed along with component penalties dictates PU strategy in conjunction with each team's overall agenda.
I don't think that Red Bull will be as helpful as you think when it comes to the mapping aspect of Tunning the PU...at best they will help Honda in identifying and modifying certain parameters at various tracks due to different characteristics on said tracks...Plain and Simple Honda design and map their Power Unit..You can't expect much from Aero experts when it comes to engine tunning and if that where the case Red Bull would have designed and manufactured their own engine a long long time ago...This is not you average Honda engine that you modify and tune at the Speed Shop but a state of the art piece of machinery and assuming that some random engineer from Red Bull will help map it is quite ludicrous actually...rogazilla wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 15:35One thing about a new spec being released is actual mapping. I believe this is the area Honda is behind due to late in the game and did not have a stable concept until now.
It makes sense when a new spec is available to run it on TR and figure out the mapping before install in RBR to be competitive right away. It does not always have to be about reliability.
It was already mentioned the relationship between ICE and MGU-H on different track needs to have different balance to maximize the efficiency of the PU. My hope is that with Red Bull's experience and Data on different track, they can assist in balancing this and help with Mapping. I remember TR has tech at Honda to help mapping in 2018.