Schu the spinmeister

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bernard
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Schu the spinmeister

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Michael Schumacher has now spun three times within two races.
Schumacher fans put the first spin down as somebody else's mistake, Schuey couldn't possibly make a mistake. Then the qualifying spin off; he wanted to give rubens the victory without actually losing to him! :lol:
I'd just love to hear their explanation for the spin off in the race... um.. he ... wanted to finish so that he wouldn't get any points just to make Barichello's victory look even greater! lol :lol:
And what do you know, he didn't look so great now, and Barrichello had no problem winning with the ferrari when he didn't have to make room fo Schumacher.
There's no doubt Barichello would have easily won the championship had he been the "Schumacher" driver on ferrari. After all, Schumacher won all his races when Ferrari was a zillion times faster that mclaren and other competitiors, or if kimi was as fast as him, his engine blew or rearwing fell off. Barrichello had to fight for both his victories.
So anybody could win in a ferrari , because Barichello under no circumstances is a "good" driver. Before entering ferrari he was a mediocre driver on Stewart.
Even Irvine seemed like a decent driver on ferrari, but when he moved to Jaguar, his speed suddenly disppeared.
So in your face, Schuey! :lol:

Monstrobolaxa
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Press release stats that Schummy lost downforce because he was too close to F. Alonso.

I'm reviewing the race and I do believe it is true....there is an onboard reply of the spin and you can clearly see that he was having a diferent line then F.Alonso and that when the rear snaps the left hand sid of the car is in the slip stream but the right handside isn't. That kind of spin is caused by the lose of grip on the left rear tire....which can be explained by the fact that the left hand side was in the slipstream. The slipstream would also influence the right had side of the car....but not as much. It the car was all in the slip stream the rear wouldn't have snapped like that I would be more of a controlled slip! (he was around 0,3 behind F. Alonso).

Conclusion: don't change your position behind a car when your in a fast corner....if you're in the slipstream stay there....don't but half of it out and the other in....you'll get downforce on one side....and have none on the other....creating an inbalance!

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bernard wrote: because Barichello under no circumstances is a "good" driver.

there is no DOUBT Ferrari is a best car out there... but to say that Rubens is not a good driver is ignorent.

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sharkie17 wrote:
bernard wrote: because Barichello under no circumstances is a "good" driver.

there is no DOUBT Ferrari is a best car out there... but to say that Rubens is not a good driver is ignorent.
Sharkie is right....Rubens was always faster then his previous team-mates...Irvine, Magnussen, Verstappen, Herbert....he is under no circumstance a bad driver.....try putting Schummy in a Minardi and lets see if he's that good!!!

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shumacher's last stop

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does anyone else think that MS's last pit stop was a bit unusual. I think they made it just so that he wouldn't get lapped by Barrichello. That might have been a bit embarrassing.

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...try putting Schummy in a Minardi and lets see if he's that good!!!
Sorry everyone, but this will never happen cause in 2 years Minardi and Jordan will be broke and have no engines and F1 will suck.

I think schmi knows he has won the championship and was just doing burnouts to entertain the crowd :P Keep that rubber smoking!

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Anonymous wrote:bernard you are a "litle bit" arrogant and stupid

take a break you don´t need to be a dumbass every day
Hahah good point
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pdog wrote:does anyone else think that MS's last pit stop was a bit unusual. I think they made it just so that he wouldn't get lapped by Barrichello. That might have been a bit embarrassing.
He did get lapped, I'm pretty sure. He might of done the last stop for new tyres because he did the fastest lap of the GP on the last.

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Anonymous wrote:bernard you are a "litle bit" arrogant and stupid

take a break you don´t need to be a dumbass every day
I was just telling the truth.
If you wan't arrogance, take your Great Schumacher's
"If you know me, I never give up. I'm Michael Schumacher. I don't need to test my driving ability" comment.

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pdog wrote:does anyone else think that MS's last pit stop was a bit unusual. I think they made it just so that he wouldn't get lapped by Barrichello. That might have been a bit embarrassing.
Dont' think so ... they were saying because of the timinig of the tire puncture, he wouldn't have enough fuel to finsh the last few laps, so, as they put it, he made a splash and dash.

As for the people who want to say that schumi sucks etc...

He won 7 championships, just incase you didn't know, and yes, that should be enough to silence anyone. So what, he had a bad weekend, he spins because he tries to push the car to it's absolute limit, he found it, twice.

Instead of acting like a pompass (ahem) why not total up each and every other drivers total "spins' this year and compare them if you will. Or add up the number of times that a driver 'had bad luck'.

Who cares, it's one bad weekend, he'll shrug it off and do his best, again, next time, like he always does.

Rubens is a fantastic driver, but Schumi is better, simple.

But how about Kimi at the end eh ? WOW, I can't wait until he demolishes the F1 world next year ... it will be the year of the ICE MAN!

Just curious -- why did they change schumi's engine after qualifying ?

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humm...probably you'd be surprised but Schummy would probably be up there with the most spinning drivers!

BUT he usually does it in the non-essencial times.....he usually spins alot in free practices and private tests....this because he is always on the limit....but he's good enough to know where the limit is so he never goes over it in races or qualifying!

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Anonymous wrote:
But how about Kimi at the end eh ? WOW, I can't wait until he demolishes the F1 world next year ... it will be the year of the ICE MAN!
i just hope that Mclaren gives him a decent car next year from the BEGINNING of the season.

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Monstrobolaxa wrote:humm...probably you'd be surprised but Schummy would probably be up there with the most spinning drivers!

BUT he usually does it in the non-essencial times....
This was going to be my next comment. It's strange how he always spins in practice but never in race(excluding the last races)
As for other drivers' spinning totals... don't remember Kimi spinning once this year, race or practice. R.Schumacher has spun at least 10-12 times, most of them during race. Plus his "accidents" with other drivers. :)

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Well that is true Kimi doesn't spin too often....I went over all the gp's and didn't find any....only one but it was caused by an engine breakage...in Melbourne!

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No Kimi doesn't spin but i'd say makes more mistakes then MS. I've seen kimi go wide and not take a corner properly numberous times. There is no excuse for MS to spin.. it was clear as day in the video replay that he wasn't even close enough to alonso to cause any air turbulence.. he spun and that's it.. mistake. I don't know why drivers, some do but say I made a mistake and thats it.. blame it on tires or something all you want but you spun..
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