rumors of key starting in march
https://soymotor.com/noticias/james-key ... rzo-960307
That's great if accurate. He'll be front and center in developing the MCL34 and leading the birth of its successor.Lucky wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 14:28A start date for new technical director James Key, who joins from Toro Rosso, has not yet been released, although he is expected to join around the end of March.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula-one/47238362
They had their filming day at Los Arcos last year, before preseason testing.
Waaaat?Ringleheim wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 21:52This is going to be yet another lost season for McLaren where the team functions as simple "also rans" from the first race.
When was the last time this team was relevant as a top protagonist on the F1 stage? It's been quite a while.
I believe the old all conquering McLaren that we have all been waiting to re-emerge is never going to be seen again. It's over folks. McLaren and have become another Williams.
Sad! As much as I always hated them as a team! But it was out of respect for their quality and success as much as anything.
All that I got from your bizarre ramblings, which by the way, contained nothing to support your claims was that you've always hated Mclaren as a team. So your desire to see them fail is, understandable.Ringleheim wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 21:52This is going to be yet another lost season for McLaren where the team functions as simple "also rans" from the first race.
When was the last time this team was relevant as a top protagonist on the F1 stage? It's been quite a while.
I believe the old all conquering McLaren that we have all been waiting to re-emerge is never going to be seen again. It's over folks. McLaren and have become another Williams.
Sad! As much as I always hated them as a team! But it was out of respect for their quality and success as much as anything.
You clearly still hate them. Imagine being so small-minded that you hate people/teams because of their quality and success. Go troll on Reddit.Ringleheim wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 21:52This is going to be yet another lost season for McLaren where the team functions as simple "also rans" from the first race.
When was the last time this team was relevant as a top protagonist on the F1 stage? It's been quite a while.
I believe the old all conquering McLaren that we have all been waiting to re-emerge is never going to be seen again. It's over folks. McLaren and have become another Williams.
Sad! As much as I always hated them as a team! But it was out of respect for their quality and success as much as anything.
What is this based on exactly? anything to back up your expert Knowledge or just your clear hate? I would happily chat to you after the first race and see if your still willing to make outrageous claims.Ringleheim wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 21:52This is going to be yet another lost season for McLaren where the team functions as simple "also rans" from the first race.
When was the last time this team was relevant as a top protagonist on the F1 stage? It's been quite a while.
I believe the old all conquering McLaren that we have all been waiting to re-emerge is never going to be seen again. It's over folks. McLaren and have become another Williams.
Sad! As much as I always hated them as a team! But it was out of respect for their quality and success as much as anything.
BAT for $30m ???M840TR wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 10:31I didn't expect Huski on the RW as well. Seems like a double digit deal.mclaren111 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 10:08Personally I'm in favor of BP / Castrol as it's developed with & for the Renault PU...
The money Petrobras would pay can be replaced next year with another sponsor...
Seems like BAT might be be a lot of money as they are all over the car...
"Come on, Alonzo, I thought you were better than that!" (Okay, that's a Vettel Quote from a race.)Ringleheim wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 21:52This is going to be yet another lost season for McLaren where the team functions as simple "also rans" from the first race.
When was the last time this team was relevant as a top protagonist on the F1 stage? It's been quite a while.
I believe the old all conquering McLaren that we have all been waiting to re-emerge is never going to be seen again. It's over folks. McLaren and have become another Williams.
Sad! As much as I always hated them as a team! But it was out of respect for their quality and success as much as anything.
I'm not sure of the exact figures but around $30m seems right since Chandon was the lead sponsor the last two years and BAT is their replacement.davidfroshanzen wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 05:32BAT for $30m ???M840TR wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 10:31I didn't expect Huski on the RW as well. Seems like a double digit deal.mclaren111 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 10:08Personally I'm in favor of BP / Castrol as it's developed with & for the Renault PU...
The money Petrobras would pay can be replaced next year with another sponsor...
Seems like BAT might be be a lot of money as they are all over the car...
They also said that the 2017 car was one of the best on the grid. We all saw how that turned outDiogoBrand wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 22:33Interesting that several people spent the entire year saying "McLaren's cooling create too much drag, that's why they're so slow", then comes someone from McLaren and says that it was pretty much class leading. Goes to show how many guesses are spread around as if they were the absolute true around here.
There is enough circumstantial evidence that shows that MCL32 was not a bad car. It could qualify P7 in Spain with an engine that shook itself to bits in early part of the season and ran handicapped ERS system, doesn't happen magically, anyway off topic.wesley123 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:39They also said that the 2017 car was one of the best on the grid. We all saw how that turned outDiogoBrand wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 22:33Interesting that several people spent the entire year saying "McLaren's cooling create too much drag, that's why they're so slow", then comes someone from McLaren and says that it was pretty much class leading. Goes to show how many guesses are spread around as if they were the absolute true around here.
I am talking about McLaren recovering performance in general. They are so behind that they really can't produce a car capable of being anything better than 4th and imo, 4th would be an achievement too .M840TR wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 12:30Who's to say really. There sure were reports of Redbull and Merc regaining 2018 DF levels which seem to be mostly from stretching the packaging and bigger RW.makecry wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:53TBH, I dont think they will ever recover in this set of regulation. You can just find so much downforce every week with limited CFD and wind tunnel time and more or less zero testing. They are not going to recover unless there is a new set of regulations that needs cars to be rebuilt from ground up and even then you gotta be lucky.M840TR wrote: ↑16 Feb 2019, 11:45I believe the source is this interview Lando gave to Sky at the car launch. He says the car doesn't have as much downforce as last year but they're making gains every week. Also says everyone will be initially slower than before but will eventually make progress.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... ens-launch