Scuderia Ferrari SF90

[F1ern]

https://i.imgur.com/8BvXYod.jpg
From the launch video

Very clean design, looking forward to see it on track.

[GrizzleBoy]

I'm wondering how important a more efficient rear wing even is as the turbo era progresses in its current form.

The new aero regs introduced a notable understeer challenge for teams. Front lockups were a big thing while teams fought for balance.

With the newly simplified front wings creating even less front downforce (or at least seemingly designed that way), it seems the mid and front wings should have the most focus on their efficiency than trying to further increase rear downforce.

I could be (very) wrong, of course.

[JPBD1990]

I'm wondering how important a more efficient rear wing even is as the turbo era progresses in its current form.

The new aero regs introduced a notable understeer challenge for teams. Front lockups were a big thing while teams fought for balance.

With the newly simplified front wings creating even less front downforce (or at least seemingly designed that way), it seems the mid and front wings should have the most focus on their efficiency than trying to further increase rear downforce.

I could be (very) wrong, of course.

Think of it this way. If the rear wing is working more effectively/efficiently, you can quite easily reduce wing angle to help balance the car.

You want tools in your toolbox. If the wing is inefficient, and you need more wing angle just to balance the car, you’re already on the back foot.

This just gives them another dial to turn up/down as may be required (if it is increased RW efficiency they’re chasing)

[motobaleno]

I'm wondering how important a more efficient rear wing even is as the turbo era progresses in its current form.

The new aero regs introduced a notable understeer challenge for teams. Front lockups were a big thing while teams fought for balance.

With the newly simplified front wings creating even less front downforce (or at least seemingly designed that way), it seems the mid and front wings should have the most focus on their efficiency than trying to further increase rear downforce.

I could be (very) wrong, of course.

I'm not sure to catch you but note that the new regulations affected parts of the FW that were intended to increase floor and diffuser efficiency and ultimately REAR df. the part of the FW creating directly front downforce is the one left basically unchanged

[hollus]

This a reminder to everyone that this is the Ferrari CAR thread. The mod team is trying to keep the car threads (all of them) particularly focused on what is on the car and how it works. Discussing how a certain feature would make the car faster (or not) is 100% on topic, but "the car looks fast" is better discussed on the team thread, where, honestly, the discussion on the team can be much more natural, fluid and free.

This are the guidelines posted as the first post in every car thread:

This is the Scuderia Ferrari SF90 offical car thread.

Please discuss ONLY technical items of this car, and refrain from speculation.

General discussion about the team, its drivers and performance can be posted in the team thread.

Livery Talk also belongs in the Team Thread. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27826

The last two posts, about Vettel's contract, have been moved to the team thread.

That said, kudos to everyone for, so far, mostly, staying on topic in the car threads. Long might that continue!

[f1316]

Weren’t Ferrari doing a shakedown today? Or was it tomorrow? Interested to see pics on track.

[lio007]

Weren’t Ferrari doing a shakedown today? Or was it tomorrow? Interested to see pics on track.

If I remember correctly, it is scheduled for tomorrow.

[Sierra117]

Loving the matte red on this one. Ferrari claim it saves weight, but is it significant enough? I'd rather believe it's, as Scarbs pointed out, harder to make out the curves and features due to lack of reflections.

[Maritimer]

Even if it saves one pound over the whole car theyll jump all over it

[DiogoBrand]

I never really buy the "This new paint saves weight" claims. If we were to believe it every time they say it, most cars would have paint with negative mass right now.

[f1316]

Is there a regulation that says the car must be painted? It not, why not just leave it bare?

[LM10]

Loving the matte red on this one. Ferrari claim it saves weight, but is it significant enough? I'd rather believe it's, as Scarbs pointed out, harder to make out the curves and features due to lack of reflections.

In an article I read that the matte paint on the RBR saved them 600 grams. This probably would make you be faster by less than 0,05 seconds per lap. Well, it shows how the teams consider absolutely every detail.
It would be nice to know if such different paints also have an aerodynamic benefit.

[zibby43]

Is there a regulation that says the car must be painted? It not, why not just leave it bare?

Sponsorship money.

[garygph]

Loving the matte red on this one. Ferrari claim it saves weight, but is it significant enough? I'd rather believe it's, as Scarbs pointed out, harder to make out the curves and features due to lack of reflections.

In an article I read that the matte paint on the RBR saved them 600 grams. This probably would make you be faster by less than 0,05 seconds per lap. Well, it shows how the teams consider absolutely every detail.
It would be nice to know if such different paints also have an aerodynamic benefit.

It was some time back when there was a similar discussion and there was a benefit in wet weather apparently and no penalty otherwise iirc.
If it saves weight they will do it. One cannot look at it in isolation and say it is "only" x amount because after you have added all the "only"'s up suddenly you have something very worthwhile.. . .and this is F1 were fractions make a huge difference after all.

[f1316]

Is there a regulation that says the car must be painted? It not, why not just leave it bare?

Sponsorship money.

Sure, but you could put the sponsors’ logos on a bare chassis in principle, no?