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Quite possibly. They may have changed it over the break as they were quite late in returning after it.
He is on the C1 currently
The trash talking was all Honda fans thinking McLaren made a dog every single year since 2013. Honda fans then argued against science e.g GPS data, that showed McLaren were very fast in the corners.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 16:29I never understood why there was so much trash talking against Mclaren. Sure they had problems after 2012 till 2018 but every team had their bad years and good years. I am pretty sure Mclaren is much better than they think.
High downforce rear wingGround Effect wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 17:24Guys, could anybody clarify for me? I'm sure we've all seen the rear wing McLaren is running at the tests. Would that be categorized as a conventional Barcelona (and similar tracks) rear wing, or is it a low downforce edition for like Montreal etc?
Completely agree.McG wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 17:24The trash talking was all Honda fans thinking McLaren made a dog every single year since 2013. Honda fans then argued against science e.g GPS data, that showed McLaren were very fast in the corners.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 16:29I never understood why there was so much trash talking against Mclaren. Sure they had problems after 2012 till 2018 but every team had their bad years and good years. I am pretty sure Mclaren is much better than they think.
Last year McLaren made a dog from hell, but still they finished higher than they would have with a Honda, but Honda fans don't accept facts, they love PR though.
Also the complaining comes from disillusioned McLaren fans who demand personal satisfaction for some instant good feels. Doesn't work like that bro.
If there is an improvement this year, even a small one, there should be less complaining. It's already starting to subside, mostly everyone complaining is being called out, even being called a troll.
Onwards and upwards McLaren.
Are you aware of how far they actually fell and where they've been since 2015?Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 16:29I never understood why there was so much trash talking against Mclaren. Sure they had problems after 2012 till 2018 but every team had their bad years and good years. I am pretty sure Mclaren is much better than they think.
The results from Hungary and Monaco during the Honda years speak from themselvesmunudeges wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 17:28Are you aware of how far they actually fell and where they've been since 2015?Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 16:29I never understood why there was so much trash talking against Mclaren. Sure they had problems after 2012 till 2018 but every team had their bad years and good years. I am pretty sure Mclaren is much better than they think.
Everybody is saying something. It all doesn't make much sense to me. I really find it difficult to see any logic in all the runs so far (from all teams). The only thing I read is that the McLaren looks much more stable on track, so that will probably mean it's a good baseline. McLaren has always been great with development during the season, but last year it simply wasn't possible to add performance because of the mistake they made. I think we will see good progress during the year, especially when Seidl en Key will find their way. I'm expecting a lot from Seidl, seems like great leader with great technical knowledge.charliesmithhd wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 17:02Mark Hughes saying Toro Rosso and Renault behind mclaren and alfa
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... ectabilityBut, realistically, the best that can be hoped for McLaren in 2019 is a return to respectability. This team has fallen a long way behind the best in most of the key areas – and this was something that was disguised by the very real shortfalls of the Honda powerplants 2015-17. But the clues were there in 2014 when McLaren ran a Mercedes power unit in the first year of the hybrid formula and was over 1sec off the pace of the works Mercedes, and significantly adrift of the identically-powered Williams.
Fast-forward into 2018 and McLaren was over 1sec off the identically-powered Red Bull, and significantly adrift of the Enstone Renault.
As the team awaits the arrival of Key, the returning Pat Fry is working hand-in-hand with Peter Prodromou and Andrea Stella in the engineering group, but without anything like the resource of the top three teams.
A good baseline car without an inherent aerodynamic flaw would be a respectable starting point for the rebuilding of a team that has proved a little like an attractive-looking classic car apparently just needing a little bit of tidying up. A deeper look reveals McLaren's recovery as a much bigger – and more expensive – project.