2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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_cerber1 wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 13:55
Bad start of tests, neither time nor run. #-o #-o #-o
38 Laps this morning, not really a disaster, but definitely not needed.
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Albert Fabrega:
Alonso has already reached the Circuit to continue the near McLaren pre-season tests
https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 4680086528

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Mclaren should at least put out a statement on the stoppage
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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He comes bearing gifts!

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Ground Effect wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:28
Mclaren should at least put out a statement on the stoppage
Yeah maybe they are just going to come out after lunch and say what there issue was?
McLaren Mercedes

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KingHamilton01 wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:48
Ground Effect wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:28
Mclaren should at least put out a statement on the stoppage
Yeah maybe they are just going to come out after lunch and say what there issue was?
They likely won't as per usual and just try to continue their running.

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M840TR wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:37
He comes bearing gifts!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0VJXnbXgAAHRVd.jpg:large
For the Mercedes team? :D
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Jolle wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 00:35
GoranF1 wrote:
25 Feb 2019, 23:59
diffuser wrote:
25 Feb 2019, 13:41


Sounds like a repeat of Honda. Only you want to perpetuate the most painful years...
I said serious, not Honda.
looking ahead while looking back, F1 always has been about having the right engine. Even during the most restricted period of F1, when RedBull reigned with the Renault V8, they were lucky that Renault made mistakes with Enstone and teamed up with RedBull. They wouldn't have been this successful with Cosworth or even their Ferrari deal from the days before (Ferrari wouldn't have allowed it)

So, being race/championship winning with Renault/Mercedes/Ferrari is out of the question. All three teams have nothing to gain winning in the back of the McLaren.

A good new partner has to have a few trades: a very modern racing department with possibilities to craft this new way of building a racing engine (more towards endurance racing/efficiency then high revving big power). At the moment a few companies come into mind: Toyota and Volkswagen Group (Porsche, VW, Audi, Lambo, etc) and a few with the technical possibilities to set something up or buy into a company who can do that: General Motors, Kia/Hyundai and Ford.

Volkswagen is out, they have too much direct models within the McLaren range. If they would enter they would just buy a factory.
Ford and Toyota are a bit the same with their GT and LFA. Both are also large enough to do a Renault route (again) and take all the marketing instead of just the PU deal.

Leaves GM and Hyundai.Both without a history in F1.

Looking at the amount that Daimler, Fiat/Chrysler and Renault are investing into F1 compared what the extra costs are for owning the team vs just a PU deal, supplying only a PU (like Honda does) doesn't make a lot of sense, as a team you can get prize money, sponsors, use those sponsors to have extra exposure for your brand, etc etc.

So... what could be the "way out"? In my view the best way for McLaren to return to power again is to be taken over (again) by a large other brand to be their high-tech sports car division, like they were with Mercedes (and how Ferrari is part of Fiat, Lambo of VW, AMG-Daimler, etc).

McLaren at the moment is relative cheap, around 2.2 billion and got most of that already in outstanding debt. Ford and GM of course just sold most of their extra brands (Volvo, opel/vauxhaul, Jaguar) so they aren't in the market... but... Geely? Kia?
I highly doubt there will be any manufacturers joining F1 while it's not fully electrical. The F1 just should stick with the current engines, because the gap will close with team time, just like it did with the V8's. All these regulations changes are simply terrible for the private teams, especially with the b squads running the parts of the big teams.

Ground Effect wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:55
M840TR wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:37
He comes bearing gifts!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0VJXnbXgAAHRVd.jpg:large
For the Mercedes team? :D

It says Carlo Sainz and Lando Norris on the box.

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M840TR wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:53
KingHamilton01 wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:48
Ground Effect wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:28
Mclaren should at least put out a statement on the stoppage
Yeah maybe they are just going to come out after lunch and say what there issue was?
They likely won't as per usual and just try to continue their running.
We have an update from McLaren.

The reason for Norris stopping this morning was due to a loss of hydraulic pressure. The team says it should be back out soon.

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Norris is out.

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ALO_Power wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 15:52
Norris is out.
He's done several laps in the 1:23s on the C1 now after pitting.

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He's done several laps in the 1:23s on the C1 now after pitting.
Is that good or bad ??

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The car is so fast on the straights. Even with high fuel and C1 tyres it's only 2km/h on Hamilton low-fuel run.

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mclaren111 wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 16:37
He's done several laps in the 1:23s on the C1 now after pitting.
Is that good or bad ??
No idea. Compared to others doing same lap-time on softer tyres it's good but there are so many variables it's impossible to judge.

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bauc wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 15:38
M840TR wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:53
KingHamilton01 wrote:
26 Feb 2019, 14:48


Yeah maybe they are just going to come out after lunch and say what there issue was?
They likely won't as per usual and just try to continue their running.
We have an update from McLaren.

The reason for Norris stopping this morning was due to a loss of hydraulic pressure. The team says it should be back out soon.

Via Autosport live
Interesting how they call broken turbo;
A lost of hydraulic pressure
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