2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Great job by Antonio Giovinazzi. Thank you. =D>

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RonDennis wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 07:56
Great job by Antonio Giovinazzi. Thank you. =D>
Don't understand why we pitted when we did. We should have known he was there.

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diffuser wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:15
RonDennis wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 07:56
Great job by Antonio Giovinazzi. Thank you. =D>
Don't understand why we pitted when we did. We should have known he was there.

Plus we just seem to be running to a fixed pace of 1:29s. Like we're fuel saving or something Is broken.

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Disappointing race pace. I'm hoping that after getting stuck behind Giovanazzi, they had to run the car in lower engine mode due to reliability concerns.

Sainz was talking about engine issues throughout the weekend, I guess he knew what he was talking about.

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Dire. Look at how much Norris dropped off from Kvyat and Gasly. Honda have indeed improved. Embarrassing to be McLaren fan today.
Finally, everyone knows that Red Bull is a joke and Max Verstappen is overrated.

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What went wrong today? How did Norris lose 4 places?

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McG wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:40
Dire. Look at how much Norris dropped off from Kvyat and Gasly. Honda have indeed improved. Embarrassing to be McLaren fan today.
Er...no. all the early stoppers had pace issues at the end and Lando had to nurse those hard tires home. Some bad luck today for both drivers though pace not great either. Let's see if Bahrain is more "normal"

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:43
What went wrong today? How did Norris lose 4 places?
Lost two at the start, two in the middle behind GIO and couldn't challenge at the end with old hard tires.
It seemed like he was driving a very conservative race today with his lines and battles.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:43
What went wrong today? How did Norris lose 4 places?
At the start, he lost two places. Nothing really wrong there, Hulkenberg had an amazing start (passed 4 or so cars), and Kimi was beside him and managed to do it. In the rest of the race, Norris went on hard tires and got stuck behind Giovanazzi, this put him 10 or so seconds behind Kimi and after that, he couldn't catch back and lost two more places with guys who pitted late (due to being stuck behind Gio).

Nothing looks majorly wrong, so I guess it's a combination of hard tires, rookie driver and possibly some concern for the engine.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:27
Disappointing race pace. I'm hoping that after getting stuck behind Giovanazzi, they had to run the car in lower engine mode due to reliability concerns.

Sainz was talking about engine issues throughout the weekend, I guess he knew what he was talking about.
Was a mgu-k failure.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:46
Darth-Piekus wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:43
What went wrong today? How did Norris lose 4 places?
At the start, he lost two places. Nothing really wrong there, Hulkenberg had an amazing start (passed 4 or so cars), and Kimi was beside him and managed to do it. In the rest of the race, Norris went on hard tires and got stuck behind Giovanazzi, this put him 10 or so seconds behind Kimi and after that, he couldn't catch back and lost two more places with guys who pitted late (due to being stuck behind Gio).

Nothing looks majorly wrong, so I guess it's a combination of hard tires, rookie driver and possibly some concern for the engine.
Bone head strategy.

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Macklaren wrote:
McG wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:40
Dire. Look at how much Norris dropped off from Kvyat and Gasly. Honda have indeed improved. Embarrassing to be McLaren fan today.
Er...no. all the early stoppers had pace issues at the end and Lando had to nurse those hard tires home. Some bad luck today for both drivers though pace not great either. Let's see if Bahrain is more "normal"
Not the race that we were looking forward to, Hulk had an awesome start and Kimi got the better of Lando at turn 1... That put him in 10th place before turn 3... The pit stop wasn’t probably well timed, but GIO defended very well and this circuit is one that is really hard to pass, proven by how Kvyat with way more pace than Stroll couldn’t stick the move... Gasly, with fresh Soft tires couldn’t pass Kvyat on Hard tires.

Norris probably killed his tires trying to get pass GIO and with the problems with Sainz, he may have been requested to nurse the car home.

The first race of the season is over and there are still things to be positive about, the team put one car in Q3, which was unexpected... Now onto Bahrain in a couple weeks and see if there is some improvement from today... The worst part is losing an engine so early in the season, that hurts!


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We only judge from what we saw during the first race. I preferred last year's car with bad quali pace but alot better in the race. It also seemed more gentle to the tyres. We solved the correlation problems, we had the expected development from one year to another, we have an almost as good engine as the others, but we are at the same place (if not worse). So the other teams made bigger steps than us.
I am worried from Lando's trouble to get passed Giovinazzi, a car with no tires at that point. Everyone else got passed him very easily. But he is a rookie. If you look it from another view he didn't took any risks, which is a good thing. But this thing with Giovinazzi ruined his race.
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diffuser wrote:
FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 08:27
Disappointing race pace. I'm hoping that after getting stuck behind Giovanazzi, they had to run the car in lower engine mode due to reliability concerns.

Sainz was talking about engine issues throughout the weekend, I guess he knew what he was talking about.
Was a mgu-k failure.
Wondering if the fire also killed the ICE


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Lando drive perfectly, but the strategy man thinking with their butt. PU wise hopeless.