2019 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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wow...... where they in a bad condition this time, after the pitsstop they didn't have the pace at all, the way how easy Verstappen overtook Vettel, and drove away from him.
and you can't tell me it was it was the circuit .....

Ferrari has a lot of work to do for the next GP

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Binotto explains that because Vettel was on older tyres at the time and struggling for pace, the team decided to tell its drivers to hold position.

“When Seb pitted for the medium tyres he didn’t have on that new tyres the grip he expecting and he was attacked [and passed] by Verstappen,” said Binotto.

“So we decided to bring the car home. He was managing the tyres to the end and I think that 10 laps to the end as a team we decided not to take any risks, hold positions and bring the cars home, scoring points.

Binotto said the decision was “not a difficult one”.
https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/17/fer ... ss-vettel/

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I'm a bit of a fan of Leclerc, but IMO this was a non-issue. If he beats Seb, I want him to beat him on merit and speed. This was not the case today - he only closed up to Seb due to the strategy call. So I think it was a solid call. If Leclerc wants to beat Seb, he has to do that especially on Saturdays or be quicker then Seb in a straight up fight during the race.
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Phil wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 13:00
I'm a bit of a fan of Leclerc, but IMO this was a non-issue. If he beats Seb, I want him to beat him on merit and speed. This was not the case today - he only closed up to Seb due to the strategy call. So I think it was a solid call. If Leclerc wants to beat Seb, he has to do that especially on Saturdays or be quicker then Seb in a straight up fight during the race.
well Leclerc had the fresher tyre, but i can understand the call, there was nothing to gain for Leclerc

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I hope not going for the fastest lap point comes back to bite Ferrari in the ass. I don't buy the explanation of "it was to risky".

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f1universe wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 15:16
I hope not going for the fastest lap point comes back to bite Ferrari in the ass. I don't buy the explanation of "it was to risky".
me neither, but they had nothing to gain if Leclerc would have pass Vettel, it would have been a lose for Vettel and the teamspirit

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Ferrari backed the wrong horse and did it at the first GP where there no benefit, should have let Leclerc through and reaped both the boost it would have given their new driver and the PR coverage that would have resulted - if leclerc turns out to be faster the rest of the season too they might be ruing those points.
They should also have pitted and gone for the fastest lap, it's like they've given up on the chapionship one race in, total shambles.

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PhillipM wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 17:44
Ferrari backed the wrong horse and did it at the first GP where there no benefit, should have let Leclerc through and reaped both the boost it would have given their new driver and the PR coverage that would have resulted - if leclerc turns out to be faster the rest of the season too they might be ruing those points.
They should also have pitted and gone for the fastest lap, it's like they've given up on the chapionship one race in, total shambles.
don't overreact right away, it was the first race of the season, still 20 to go, i fully understand the decision

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PhillipM wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 17:44
Ferrari backed the wrong horse and did it at the first GP where there no benefit, should have let Leclerc through and reaped both the boost it would have given their new driver and the PR coverage that would have resulted - if leclerc turns out to be faster the rest of the season too they might be ruing those points.
They should also have pitted and gone for the fastest lap, it's like they've given up on the chapionship one race in, total shambles.
Not sure what exactly you're talking about because today Leclerc clearly was the slower driver. If Leclerc starts being the faster driver at some point, it would be silly to back Vettel, that's true. But for now there have not been any signs yet and that's not a bad thing either since Leclerc can get the time he needs to grow into his new environment.

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Capharol wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 17:50
don't overreact right away, it was the first race of the season, still 20 to go, i fully understand the decision
Yes, it's the first race of the season, that's exactly why there shouldn't have been team orders.
But then Ferrari seem to have no clue how to manage a driver without stomping all over them lately - see Massa getting his first win since his comeback from injury taken away from him and the downward spiral that resulted - also Kimi forever getting his race and pitstop compromised for vettel even if he was faster that resulted in Kimi just not giving a **** any more - until he knew he was leaving and then he got some motivation back.

You want to lose motivation in your new driver? Textbook way to do it today.

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Considering the headline from race 1 is Ferrari using team orders.


Instead hey wait Charles is catching Seb rapidly.

Lets pit him and go for fastest lap.

To avoid this mess.


But as usually Ferrari strategy calls are joke.

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Ferrari will be better as of next race by about 2 tenths as the Bahrain circuit configuration doesnt have slow corners like in Melbourne and the grip level there is the best in all the F1 calender. Ferrari is good on the straights. These were the two most mentioned problems by Vettel. Unless a new problem could arise ?

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They should have changed tyres and go for the fastest lap. They left a point on the table. Unless they thought they could not beat the Bottas time even with fresher tyres.
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Have they mentioned anywhere why they had such a lack of pace this weekend?

Seb said he didn’t have the grip that they had in Barcelona but it was very odd this weekend, almost like something significant had changed on the car.

Do we expect a different animal in Bahrain?

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Mansell89 wrote:
18 Mar 2019, 09:43
Have they mentioned anywhere why they had such a lack of pace this weekend?

Seb said he didn’t have the grip that they had in Barcelona but it was very odd this weekend, almost like something significant had changed on the car.

Do we expect a different animal in Bahrain?
"That was one story; the other was the under-performance of Ferrari. Around a low grip, bumpy track very different to Barcelona, the SF90 simply wasn’t working. “It was not balanced, it struggled with the tyres and none of the different set-ups we tried worked,” surmised Mattia Binotto. It was noticeable that it was running a lot of front wing angle and GPS analysis confirmed that most of the time loss was in Turns One, Three and 13 – i.e. the slow, big steering-lock corners leading onto straights. Meaning it was slow onto the straights and at the end of them. Even with all its front wing angle used up, it still had a front-end grip shortfall."

". . . the Ferrari was lacking in front-end grip. Although its straightline speeds were well down too, this was a just a function of how much slower it was onto the straights (GPS-derived power overlays suggested a negligible difference between Mercedes and Ferrari)."

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/repo ... rix-report