2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Marti_EF3]

Honda on the top of the speed traps today

[HPD]

Marko said they did not receive any warning about fuel consumption. And that taking into account that Max was a long time in the attack area

[langedweil]

these numbers are really encouraging, good speed

Well said. The guy who bolted the fastest race lap, is down on all sectors and on speed trap, talks a lot about the dependability of those numbers.

Well, usually they had to strip off more and more DF/drag just to move topspeedwise to the bottom of the middle.
This shows they have too much (unnecessary) topspeed compared to the racewinner, so DF/drag can be enlarged to obtain better cornering speed.
That’s a win/positive in itself, isn’t it?
I mean, it was after all their 1st race with this car and diffrent PU ...

[makecry]

Fair play to Honda. Massive improvement. Marko's claim of 5 wins might not be a tough ask.

I made a post long time back how I'd be happy with Daniel winning a championship in a RedBull Honda is Fernando And Mclaren Honda were not destined to. I wish Daniel was still in the team and I'd finally have a new drive-team combo to support in F1 after Fernando.

[Wouter]

Red Bull: Engine our strength, weaknesses in the chassis.

Dr. Helmut Marko could hardly be stopped for euphoria. "We have a great engine!" He praised in an interview with Motorsport-Magazin.com. But ultimately, the third place of Max Verstappen can not hide the fact that Red Bull finished more than 20 seconds behind winner Valtteri Bottas.

But where are the deficits? "We have to work on the chassis," says Marko surprisingly. "We need more downforce."

But why does Red Bull have shortcomings on the chassis? "For many years, we did not have the luxury of a powerful engine, so we may not have really come to terms with the philosophy."

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/form ... m-chassis/

[Capharol]

this isn't negative meant but the way i read it, with in the back of my mind the rumour they already have new parts ready (at least for 1 car) and Honda has already has made a better engine which has a bit more power, which they claimed could be used in China already .....

this way the last sentence of Marko, if said so, is just to cover there A** because they know they have made a few mistakes with the new rules or at least they haven't got it completly right

[Wouter]

this isn't negative meant but the way i read it, with in the back of my mind the rumour they already have new parts ready (at least for 1 car) and Honda has already has made a better engine which has a bit more power, which they claimed could be used in China already .....

this way the last sentence of Marko, if said so, is just to cover there A** because they know they have made a few mistakes with the new rules or at least they haven't got it completly right

With the bad / weak Renault engine, they always had to adjust their chassis accordingly, in order to compensate for that too little power.
Now that they have a Honda engine with a lot of power and a different drivability, they have to design a completely different car. They don't have to compensate for the too little power. During the winter, however, they did not know that the engine had much more power than they expected. This "problem" does not seem difficult to solve.

Btw, the China upgrades were already used in Australia. They will have in China new upgrades again.

[hasika]

https://members.f1-life.net/report/80422/

The Spec1 of Honda RA619H is at the same level of 2018 Mercedes PU(lastest spec).
The journalist is very famous as his report about Honda is always very reliable in most cases.

[Capharol]

https://members.f1-life.net/report/80422/

The Spec1 of Honda RA619H is at the same level of 2018 Mercedes PU(lastest spec).
The journalist is very famous as his report about Honda is always very reliable in most cases.

to bad it seems to be a premium article and there is more

but thank you for sharing

[Capharol]

While Tanabe admitted that "when you see that on the TV, it's good", he stressed Honda must continue to improve as Ferrari and Mercedes still hold an engine performance advantage.

Mercedes' race winner Valtteri Bottas finished more than 20 seconds ahead of Verstappen, who was a regular podium finisher in 2018 with Renault power.

Tanabe said: "We got some data from the Barcelona tests and we have something from here.

"We see again a clear gap between the top teams. The podium doesn't make any change [to targets or expectations]."

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... s/4355114/

[etusch]

https://members.f1-life.net/report/80422/

The Spec1 of Honda RA619H is at the same level of 2018 Mercedes PU(lastest spec).
The journalist is very famous as his report about Honda is always very reliable in most cases.

If this is true and if the news which was saying mercedes found 12 + hp for new Engine, it is very good indeed. So Honda's catching rivals by midseason claim is viable

[Bill]

"It's not easy to tell where our performance is now" I think Tanabe is contradicting himself, I think given their history he doesn't want to say they are now among the top dogs , Ferrari is clearly straggling with their pu they need to sort whatever is it that is hampering them but when Honda was having troubles with vibrations they didn't get any sympathy they were savaged .right now Honda is number 2 pu. Marko is raving about it he thinks Rbr are lacking in chassis department

[hasika]

While Tanabe admitted that "when you see that on the TV, it's good", he stressed Honda must continue to improve as Ferrari and Mercedes still hold an engine performance advantage.

Mercedes' race winner Valtteri Bottas finished more than 20 seconds ahead of Verstappen, who was a regular podium finisher in 2018 with Renault power.

Tanabe said: "We got some data from the Barcelona tests and we have something from here.

"We see again a clear gap between the top teams. The podium doesn't make any change [to targets or expectations]."

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... s/4355114/

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... ports-moto

Tanabe said he felt relaxed when Max finished the race with a podium.But he also said he cant be so happy because the gap to Mercedes is big this race.
“Of course(i am happy),but also with a emotion that i cant be so happy.Because the gap to Mercedes is obvious very big in both Qualifying and Race.How to fight in the next races?We must think about it.Of course,it(the gap) will be different in every race due to car characteristics and the track characteristics,but its not a situation we can be so happy.If we want to fight for the top,we must focus on every detail and work hard.We will have some disscussion with the development team.”

I dont know if the motorsport article and this are from the same interview because its just very similar.I think what tanabe said is not engine performance but the whole package.

[!Technical]

Much prefer this humility shown by Tanabe. Manage the expectations until you have a championship.

[Jambier]

I think Tanabe is a very clever guy, and understand that RB was wining race with a Renault as well...
So he is not glorifying Honda based on nothing. And he is not doing stupid communication

Honda has made great progress, they were probably the second PU on this race, but they also know that Ferrari's issue will not last all year and that Renault will soon run with more "unleashed" PU

So many congrats to Honda, they keep fighting, they keep progressing, and they keep being honest / humble

I also think this is a very good thing to have this Honda PU: Now RB can't hide behind their engine, it is somehow a bit like McLaren in 2018, seeing the true pace of their chassis