2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[dxpetrov]

He mentions the new front and rear wings.

[HPD]

[wesley123]

that fuel flow regulation should be thrown out the window. The sensors have proven to be unreliable and if your restricting the amount of fuel the cars can use then why bother with such a system. It's not like the cars aren't already producing an amazing amount of power for the fuel they use.

Out of the ~2000 race weekends they only failed a handful of times, that's not what I, nor anyone else, would call 'unreliable'

[Capharol]

http://i68.tinypic.com/21jqfky.png

this shows exactly how good the racepace of the Honda is.
They might lack Quali-Speed, but the points are given on a sunday not after Quali....

if they get the DF and Tyre-managment under control, they can be a real contender

[Big Tea]

that fuel flow regulation should be thrown out the window. The sensors have proven to be unreliable and if your restricting the amount of fuel the cars can use then why bother with such a system. It's not like the cars aren't already producing an amazing amount of power for the fuel they use.

Out of the ~2000 race weekends they only failed a handful of times, that's not what I, nor anyone else, would call 'unreliable'

They have not 'failed' per se, as they do not control the flow, just flag if it is exceed.
The 'problem' is that the count from the unit disagreed with the count from the teams unit. both may have been correct, but have limits either side that when combined equals a number too high when rounded.

[godlameroso]

http://i68.tinypic.com/21jqfky.png

this shows exactly how good the racepace of the Honda is.
They might lack Quali-Speed, but the points are given on a sunday not after Quali....

if they get the DF and Tyre-managment under control, they can be a real contender

They need better starts, Verstappen seems to have poor starts often dropping a place. With a good holeshot he could finish higher up the order. I have no doubt the Red Bull has the pace to control a race from the front. The problem is the qualifying performance and race starts don't let Verstappen start at the front.

It is so close that whoever is in front can control the race.

[shingles]

I have wondered - I know traction control is not allowed, but are there special PU modes designed for the start? I’d have to imagine so? Could the start be something PU mapping can help with?

[Marti_EF3]

Awesome race pace. On 1st Stint, Gasly was faster than Leclerc, even with much more traffic starting from the pits. I think that with the upgrades, fight with Ferrari (and maybe Mercedes) will be exciting

Race pace



Race pace of Stint 1



Race pace of Stint 2

[carisi2k]

that fuel flow regulation should be thrown out the window. The sensors have proven to be unreliable and if your restricting the amount of fuel the cars can use then why bother with such a system. It's not like the cars aren't already producing an amazing amount of power for the fuel they use.

Out of the ~2000 race weekends they only failed a handful of times, that's not what I, nor anyone else, would call 'unreliable'

The teams buy a multitude of them because that part has a high failure rate and they aren't all the same either. They are a low quality part that should be removed.

[Capharol]

Awesome race pace. On 1st Stint, Gasly was faster than Leclerc, even with much more traffic starting from the pits. I think that with the upgrades, fight with Ferrari (and maybe Mercedes) will be exciting

Race pace

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... arrera.png

Race pace of Stint 1

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... da_1_0.png

Race pace of Stint 2

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... anda_2.png

are these numbers the average?

@godlameroso, i agree 100%

[Marti_EF3]

Awesome race pace. On 1st Stint, Gasly was faster than Leclerc, even with much more traffic starting from the pits. I think that with the upgrades, fight with Ferrari (and maybe Mercedes) will be exciting

Race pace

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... arrera.png

Race pace of Stint 1

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... da_1_0.png

Race pace of Stint 2

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... anda_2.png

are these numbers the average?

@godlameroso, i agree 100%

Yes, it's the average

[Capharol]

wow... thats looking even better on a power track like Baku as i thought.

these gives hope for the next races, if they really get there aeropackage in line ...

[langedweil]

Awesome race pace. On 1st Stint, Gasly was faster than Leclerc, even with much more traffic starting from the pits. I think that with the upgrades, fight with Ferrari (and maybe Mercedes) will be exciting

Race pace

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... arrera.png

Race pace of Stint 1

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... da_1_0.png

Race pace of Stint 2

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... anda_2.png

Thnx Marti !
(where do these graphs come from?)

As Godlameroso says, they basically need 2 things: more raw grunt (low-rpm torque) from Honda, and a more stable rear from Newey that will influence both cornering stability and enlarging the tire-window. The first will make for decent starts, both will make for better corner-exits, and the latter for more cornering speed overall (their trademark)
It'll come I reckon .. it'll come ..

[nzjrs]

Awesome race pace. On 1st Stint, Gasly was faster than Leclerc, even with much more traffic starting from the pits. I think that with the upgrades, fight with Ferrari (and maybe Mercedes) will be exciting

Race pace

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... arrera.png

Race pace of Stint 1

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... da_1_0.png

Race pace of Stint 2

https://soymotor.com/sites/default/file ... anda_2.png

Thnx Marti !
(where do these graphs come from?)

As Godlameroso says, they basically need 2 things: more raw grunt (low-rpm torque) from Honda, and a more stable rear from Newey that will influence both cornering stability and enlarging the tire-window. The first will make for decent starts, both will make for better corner-exits, and the latter for more cornering speed overall (their trademark)
It'll come I reckon .. it'll come ..

It's a shame he retired because now the record wont show if gasly had to pay for this race pace at the end of the session. I assume Honda / RBR know the data. Regardless, a good performance for the upgraded specification.

[godlameroso]

Can't forget the tires. The soft was not faster than the medium over a race stint. In fact the medium was a superior race tire.

I think teams are still figuring out the new tires. It'll take another month of racing before they're fully understood. You will see this reflected in the tire choices.

One thing I've noticed is that the two stop is more effective this year. The medium compound is the better race compound, and the soft just doesn't last long enough. C5 and C4 can't handle long stints on normal tracks.

I expect most teams to bring an extra set of mediums from here on.