2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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A preview of what I'm recording today! I've another camera and the phone. At afternoon I will upload all videos for you :mrgreen:




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Merc using a mode in the final sector called "Diff magic"

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Gasly stopped at the finish line. It happened just in front of where I'm. For how it sounded, it was when upshifting, so my guess it's a gearbox failure :cry:

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Jaisonas wrote:
14 May 2019, 16:58
Merc using a mode in the final sector called "Diff magic"
https://streamable.com/efepl
well RBR is a GURU car builder i bet they will figure out what this all about...
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Well. That seems like a smoke curtain to me. Why would you advertise (it almost seems like a marketing term "diff magic") some advantage that the others haven't even thought about like that.

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Jaisonas wrote:
14 May 2019, 16:58
Merc using a mode in the final sector called "Diff magic"
https://streamable.com/efepl
He talks about switching it off. So it may be some software control on the diff, is that allowed?
Seemed like it's not always available but Merc are always fast in the final sector. Or maybe just a more aggressive mode for quali.

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Datco wrote:
14 May 2019, 17:57
Jaisonas wrote:
14 May 2019, 16:58
Merc using a mode in the final sector called "Diff magic"
https://streamable.com/efepl
He talks about switching it off. So it may be some software control on the diff, is that allowed?
Seemed like it's not always available but Merc are always fast in the final sector. Or maybe just a more aggressive mode for quali.
I've been watching in front of the final chicane on the 3rd sector, and more or less, all the cars have oversteer exiting the chicane when accelerating, but the Mercedes, no one single time with oversteer exiting the chicane. They have a hell of a good traction, maybe that's the "magic" they have. With the videos I'll upload later you'll see it I hope, but for me it was clear. And for more info, RB15 was the 2nd car with more traction out of that chicane, the Ferrari was a bit more nervous...

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During winter testing everyone was waxing lyrics about how stable and composed the Ferrari looked what happened, also Mercedes set a blistering sector 3 time and the media covered it by claiming Lewis cut the chicane I get they were overselling Ferrari strengths to market the sport

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Bill wrote:
14 May 2019, 18:12
During winter testing everyone was waxing lyrics about how stable and composed the Ferrari looked what happened, also Mercedes set a blistering sector 3 time and the media covered it by claiming Lewis cut the chicane I get they were overselling Ferrari strengths to market the sport
I remember that. Besides that one incident their other fast laps also had the fastest final sector. Was looking ominous from then but I was hoping other teams were not pushing to the limit and we never got to see what RBR could do as a benchmark.

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Coming out of the final chicane is too slow to be aero dependent isn't it?

Are the Mercedes drivers that good at applying the throttle? Does the car let them do something others can't? Or is it simply getting more out of the tires? Because the gaps we are seeing can only be explained by the last two.

I find it hard to believe it's simply down to better aero.
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Is this GP the first time they are mentioning this on the radio?

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godlameroso wrote:
14 May 2019, 19:11
Coming out of the final chicane is too slow to be aero dependent isn't it?

Are the Mercedes drivers that good at applying the throttle? Does the car let them do something others can't? Or is it simply getting more out of the tires? Because the gaps we are seeing can only be explained by the last two.

I find it hard to believe it's simply down to better aero.
Slow speed corners relies largely on mechanical grip, very little on aero. Mechanical grip comes from tyers, suspension and diff. Everyone has the same tyers so we can rule that out. For them to have such a big advantage it has to be something major in innovation as another poster stated equivalent to RBR blown diffusers. If it were suspension I an sure one would see it in the suspension layout. I think we might be onto something on the Mercedes "magic diff"

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Maybe they are using some form of Torque vectoring

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We know it exists, we know its switchable, we know it can't work long or is situational.

I wonder if Bottas' "clutch vibration" at the start of the Spanish GP was really the effect of launching with "Diff Magic" still turned on, as Hamilton was concerned about remembering to turn it off himself...

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I'm uploading some videos right now. I'm sorry, some of my smartphone videos are a bit burned by the sun, because it was too hot today! I'm editing some videos I did with the other video cam and I did some slowmotion videos at 120fps on the chicane. More to come!







P.S. I love that downshifting sound from the Honda PU =P~ =P~