2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[damager21]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

[SmallSoldier]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Time to the leader at the end of the race it’s deceiving... It depends on the strategy of each team... After the restart, Norris was asked to aim for a lap time in the mid 1:20’s and he did... He was asked to increase the pace and he did also... After Sainz pistol, he was told not to follow Gasly anda age the pace... The time to the leader depends more than just the car pace


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[diffuser]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Not sure why you use race times from a track like Monaco. one can literally go 6 seconds a lap slower and the cars behind still couldn't pass. So basically the times mean nothing.

You can easily go to the quali times and see their 1.2 seconds a lap slower. That being Monaco, I believe that 90% of that time is tires and suspensions.

[damager21]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Not sure why you use race times from a track like Monaco. one can literally go 6 seconds a lap slower and the cars behind still couldn't pass. So basically the times mean nothing.

You can easily go to the quali times and see their 1.2 seconds a lap slower. That being Monaco, I believe that 90% of that time is tires and suspensions.

Well there was no reason for Sainz to drive slow. Lewis was in all sorts of trouble and Max was pushing like crazy too, so there was always an outside chance to score more points in case the 2 collided. You would rather have your drivers closer to the front pack to maximize opportunities rather than drive slowly. Hence I say that 53 secs off is too much. McLaren is a multi championship winning team, they are getting back on their feet but still a lot more to be done

[SmallSoldier]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Not sure why you use race times from a track like Monaco. one can literally go 6 seconds a lap slower and the cars behind still couldn't pass. So basically the times mean nothing.

You can easily go to the quali times and see their 1.2 seconds a lap slower. That being Monaco, I believe that 90% of that time is tires and suspensions.

Well there was no reason for Sainz to drive slow. Lewis was in all sorts of trouble and Max was pushing like crazy too, so there was always an outside chance to score more points in case the 2 collided. You would rather have your drivers closer to the front pack to maximize opportunities rather than drive slowly. Hence I say that 53 secs off is too much. McLaren is a multi championship winning team, they are getting back on their feet but still a lot more to be done

If they would have collided and out of the race he would have benefited regardless... There was no reason for him to go faster and risk anything... He wasn’t going to get passed Gasly and the STR cars were very quick (potentially quicker)... Why risk it at all?

Times at the end of the GP don’t mean anything and aren’t a reflection of performance.


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[diffuser]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Not sure why you use race times from a track like Monaco. one can literally go 6 seconds a lap slower and the cars behind still couldn't pass. So basically the times mean nothing.

You can easily go to the quali times and see their 1.2 seconds a lap slower. That being Monaco, I believe that 90% of that time is tires and suspensions.

Well there was no reason for Sainz to drive slow. Lewis was in all sorts of trouble and Max was pushing like crazy too, so there was always an outside chance to score more points in case the 2 collided. You would rather have your drivers closer to the front pack to maximize opportunities rather than drive slowly. Hence I say that 53 secs off is too much. McLaren is a multi championship winning team, they are getting back on their feet but still a lot more to be done

No reason for him to drive fast either. You saw him do a 1:15 to get ahead of the Kvyate when the latter pitted, then drop back to 1:18s.

[Ground Effect]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Not sure why you use race times from a track like Monaco. one can literally go 6 seconds a lap slower and the cars behind still couldn't pass. So basically the times mean nothing.

You can easily go to the quali times and see their 1.2 seconds a lap slower. That being Monaco, I believe that 90% of that time is tires and suspensions.

Well there was no reason for Sainz to drive slow. Lewis was in all sorts of trouble and Max was pushing like crazy too, so there was always an outside chance to score more points in case the 2 collided. You would rather have your drivers closer to the front pack to maximize opportunities rather than drive slowly. Hence I say that 53 secs off is too much. McLaren is a multi championship winning team, they are getting back on their feet but still a lot more to be done

In Monaco, having good tyres is a bonus in case of a late safety car, if he can do a 1:15 when required, then it’s obvious he was driving to a delta for the rest of the race. He was controlling the race and trying to avoid mistakes, knowing Kvyat couldn’t pass him under normal circumstances.

[RonDennis]

Mclaren still has a long way to go. Finishing 53secs behind Lewis in a race which had safety car, a race in which Lewis was clearly nursing his tyres means they are still well over a sec behind the leaders.

Do we know if there is any major aero upgrade coming soon?

Yeah, you also forgot about the pitstop, which Hamilton took under the safety car. They introduced a big update in Spain.

[godlameroso]

McLaren always brings new parts to every race, the development is constant even if you don't see it on the car.

[Jolle]

Monaco is 99% qualifying and 1% keeping it out of the wall during the race. Part good car, part driver in the right groove. On the car side, getting your tires to work in that one lap and good low speed grip, lots of downforce. Aero efficiency and engine power, what is important at the other circuits isn't important.

Although Sainz was 8th, McLaren had six other manufactures in front of them. Only Alfa, Racing Point and Williams were worse.

[FittingMechanics]

In Monaco, track position is everything. This meant that cars that got track position did not pit for fresh tires like they would in other races. Case and point, Hamilton, he was complaining that he cannot race on those tires yet he stayed out on them because if he pitted, he wouldn't be able to pass to capitalize on better tires. This means that comparing lap times in Monaco, especially this race, is useless. Sainz pitted earlier than Torro Rosso and needed to make his tires last. This meant that he was lapping very conservatively to keep his tires alive till the end.

If you have tires that need to last 40 laps, you can lap 2-3 seconds slower per lap and the guy behind is powerless even if he is faster 2-3 seconds. Car infront can just go full out before the tunnel and take away any opportunity for passing.

In any other track, you would get passed very fast if you were 2-3 seconds a lap slower and there you don't get such anomalies where cars nurse their tires and run a train behind them for 40 laps.

[_cerber1]

Andreas Seidl: “We are going to Canada with a positive attitude after several good races, but at the same time are fully focused on continuing to move forward. The team is engaged in the modernization of the machine and will bring in Montreal a number of updated components.

This season we were able to properly organize work during the race weekends, which allowed us to earn points, but it is important to continue to meet our high standards in the future. Tactics, pit stops, interaction between the riders and the team - all these are extremely important areas.

The Montreal circuit has some unique characteristics. In fact, this is a city highway, but at the same time it is very fast, where the appearance is often influenced by the emergence of safety cars and changeable weather surprises, so we must be prepared for any scenarios. ”

[Ground Effect]

Andreas Seidl: “We are going to Canada with a positive attitude after several good races, but at the same time are fully focused on continuing to move forward. The team is engaged in the modernization of the machine and will bring in Montreal a number of updated components.

This season we were able to properly organize work during the race weekends, which allowed us to earn points, but it is important to continue to meet our high standards in the future. Tactics, pit stops, interaction between the riders and the team - all these are extremely important areas.

The Montreal circuit has some unique characteristics. In fact, this is a city highway, but at the same time it is very fast, where the appearance is often influenced by the emergence of safety cars and changeable weather surprises, so we must be prepared for any scenarios. ”

Never heard it put like this before, The team is engaged in the modernization of the machine and will bring in Montreal a number of updated components.
Where was this taken from?

[proteus]

Andreas Seidl: “We are going to Canada with a positive attitude after several good races, but at the same time are fully focused on continuing to move forward. The team is engaged in the modernization of the machine and will bring in Montreal a number of updated components.

This season we were able to properly organize work during the race weekends, which allowed us to earn points, but it is important to continue to meet our high standards in the future. Tactics, pit stops, interaction between the riders and the team - all these are extremely important areas.

The Montreal circuit has some unique characteristics. In fact, this is a city highway, but at the same time it is very fast, where the appearance is often influenced by the emergence of safety cars and changeable weather surprises, so we must be prepared for any scenarios. ”

Never heard it put like this before, The team is engaged in the modernization of the machine and will bring in Montreal a number of updated components.
Where was this taken from?

German efficiency at full effect.

[Andres125sx]

There’s been a lot of stories recently surrounding the Renault engine, basically more power, qualifying mode etc. These developments include McLaren, right? Also, wanted to find out, does Renault determine how much power McLaren can use or have access to, what modes to run? I’m just wondering, because Cyril has talked about more power by Paul Ricard, have the works team been running more conservative than McLaren?

They added a rule a couple years ago. You can't run a engine mode unless everyone using the manufacture's PU, has it available.

Yeah, I get that. But what I mean is, for example, Renault were running detuned for a couple of races due reliability. Is McLaren obligated to do the same, or can they say, we’ll take our chances and run full power? Do they have that liberty, or would Renault insist they follow their recommendations?

Don´t think so, take RBR as an example, they tried past season (or it was the season before?) an update Renault didn´t try theirselves because it was not reliable enough, at their own risk obviously