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What I derived from what I have read they have a mode but not as powerfull as rivals at front. They are working with Redbull on it. So they will use oil burning and this party mode is the mode which is in coming I think.foneFanatiq wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 01:45Does Honda currently have the “party mode”. I’ve heard some reports saying they do and others saying it’s coming soon.
No! Honda do not have Party Mode. Party mode has far more influence in the differential than on the engine. Their engine will have push to pass however, which only lacks one crucial difference.foneFanatiq wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 01:45Does Honda currently have the “party mode”. I’ve heard some reports saying they do and others saying it’s coming soon.
What's this party mode you speak of? An exploitation of a grey area of the regulations Honda is yet to tap into? Marko already said Honda has a party mode, so perhaps you're talking about something different? Honda did ask for clarification so maybe they will bring something relating to oil burning. But anyway, Honda probably doesn't deal with the differential.Slo Poke wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 01:17No! Honda do not have Party Mode. Party mode has far more influence in the differential than on the engine. Their engine will have push to pass however, which only lacks one crucial difference.foneFanatiq wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 01:45Does Honda currently have the “party mode”. I’ve heard some reports saying they do and others saying it’s coming soon.
This is interesting. Would you like to elaborate a little on this?Slo Poke wrote: ↑28 May 2019, 13:50The Mercedes grip and acceleration out off corners has nothing to do with suspension. It's what’s in the differential that sets them apart from all others presently. Ferrari had similar last year but sadly it slipped away from them!NL_Fer wrote: ↑27 May 2019, 16:55I suspect Mercedes also gained some rear traction in de the suspension design. They were burning rear tyres during the races in 2013. They seem to manage it in 2014-2018, but this year they are so quick in slow corners. Redbull suspension designers have some homework to do.
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Red Bull recently introduced new front brake discs and calipers. These carbon fibre discs feature even more cooling holes than previously – in excess of 1,400, as seen in the image above. This will bring specific benefit at Montreal this coming weekend, for the Canadian track ranks among the very toughest test of brakes seen all season.
The man-made island circuit features a combination of slow corners interconnected by bursts of high-speed straights. This in itself implies a heavy braking energy, but what makes it particularly tough is that, in contrast to Monza for example, the straights are not long enough to allow the brakes to adequately cool before having to be used again.
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https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... n-HamiltonRED BULL chief Helmut Marko has confirmed Ferrari have made an approach for their technical staff
In no particular order.godlameroso wrote: ↑04 Jun 2019, 14:52He's talking about 'diff magic'
One thing I noticed on Bottas onboard lap in Spain was how loose the car was on corner entry. Braking into slow corners one would get the sense the car wanted to oversteer heavily.
If you look at Hamilton's onboard he also seems to be fighting entry oversteer, particularly near the end of the lap before the final turn, he has a big oversteer moment nearly losing the car.Slo Poke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 17:07In no particular order.godlameroso wrote: ↑04 Jun 2019, 14:52He's talking about 'diff magic'
One thing I noticed on Bottas onboard lap in Spain was how loose the car was on corner entry. Braking into slow corners one would get the sense the car wanted to oversteer heavily.
Godlameroso: You’re right I was making reference concerning ‘diff magic’ however Magic is not reality. I will admit there’s a certain magnetic irresistibly about it as all other teams will need to follow suit but as yet cannot! Your reference about Bottas in Spain has to be based on his delving beyond limits prior to car setup or some other reason unknown to me. Diff Magic, as coined, also goes by another moniker ‘rear wheel steer’ and that caught Ferrari out who quickly binned their iteration of the system. Rear wheel steer is a misnomer as it doesn’t work as the moniker implies but as a maintainer of neutrality at all times.
Hurril: Apologies, for leaving you hanging for so long. I’ve been very busy. It is not, nor will it ever be my intention to make a tantalising statement and simply leave at that but your request for elaboration poses quite a problem. I can vaguely confirm that it’s electrical in adjustability and governability, which renders it therefore tunable to track specification within the appropriate setup modes.
That is all I am willing to state at this time. In a few weeks or after a month or thereabouts I fully intend to blow the gaff,.. be patient!
Ispano6: Apologies again for time it’s taken to reply. Honda does not, other than needing verification on gear ratios, have anything at all to do with the differential. Oil burning has far more to do with rear tyre rubber preservation than power output per se. There may be a very meagre amount to be gained but not enough to mess with. Whatever Mr. Marko or anyone else may have said, it isn’t worth a jot! Exploitation concerning a grey area Honda have yet to tap into has nothing to do with regulation.
So what happens when you burn oil? The tires automatically warm up? I'm not seeing this correlation that you've described. Since we're talking about diffs, it seems that the diff is super loose in order to be able to change direction in the manner described. Is it possible that the diff gradually locks or tightens at higher speeds?Slo Poke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 17:07In no particular order.godlameroso wrote: ↑04 Jun 2019, 14:52He's talking about 'diff magic'
One thing I noticed on Bottas onboard lap in Spain was how loose the car was on corner entry. Braking into slow corners one would get the sense the car wanted to oversteer heavily.
Godlameroso: You’re right I was making reference concerning ‘diff magic’ however Magic is not reality. I will admit there’s a certain magnetic irresistibly about it as all other teams will need to follow suit but as yet cannot! Your reference about Bottas in Spain has to be based on his delving beyond limits prior to car setup or some other reason unknown to me. Diff Magic, as coined, also goes by another moniker ‘rear wheel steer’ and that caught Ferrari out who quickly binned their iteration of the system. Rear wheel steer is a misnomer as it doesn’t work as the moniker implies but as a maintainer of neutrality at all times.
Hurril: Apologies, for leaving you hanging for so long. I’ve been very busy. It is not, nor will it ever be my intention to make a tantalising statement and simply leave at that but your request for elaboration poses quite a problem. I can vaguely confirm that it’s electrical in adjustability and governability, which renders it therefore tunable to track specification within the appropriate setup modes.
That is all I am willing to state at this time. In a few weeks or after a month or thereabouts I fully intend to blow the gaff,.. be patient!
Ispano6: Apologies again for time it’s taken to reply. Honda does not, other than needing verification on gear ratios, have anything at all to do with the differential. Oil burning has far more to do with rear tyre rubber preservation than power output per se. There may be a very meagre amount to be gained but not enough to mess with. Whatever Mr. Marko or anyone else may have said, it isn’t worth a jot! Exploitation concerning a grey area Honda have yet to tap into has nothing to do with regulation.
Godlameroso:godlameroso wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 20:15If you look at Hamilton's onboard he also seems to be fighting entry oversteer, particularly near the end of the lap before the final turn, he has a big oversteer moment nearly losing the car.Slo Poke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2019, 17:07In no particular order.godlameroso wrote: ↑04 Jun 2019, 14:52He's talking about 'diff magic'
One thing I noticed on Bottas onboard lap in Spain was how loose the car was on corner entry. Braking into slow corners one would get the sense the car wanted to oversteer heavily.
Godlameroso: You’re right I was making reference concerning ‘diff magic’ however Magic is not reality. I will admit there’s a certain magnetic irresistibly about it as all other teams will need to follow suit but as yet cannot! Your reference about Bottas in Spain has to be based on his delving beyond limits prior to car setup or some other reason unknown to me. Diff Magic, as coined, also goes by another moniker ‘rear wheel steer’ and that caught Ferrari out who quickly binned their iteration of the system. Rear wheel steer is a misnomer as it doesn’t work as the moniker implies but as a maintainer of neutrality at all times.
Hurril: Apologies, for leaving you hanging for so long. I’ve been very busy. It is not, nor will it ever be my intention to make a tantalising statement and simply leave at that but your request for elaboration poses quite a problem. I can vaguely confirm that it’s electrical in adjustability and governability, which renders it therefore tunable to track specification within the appropriate setup modes.
That is all I am willing to state at this time. In a few weeks or after a month or thereabouts I fully intend to blow the gaff,.. be patient!
Ispano6: Apologies again for time it’s taken to reply. Honda does not, other than needing verification on gear ratios, have anything at all to do with the differential. Oil burning has far more to do with rear tyre rubber preservation than power output per se. There may be a very meagre amount to be gained but not enough to mess with. Whatever Mr. Marko or anyone else may have said, it isn’t worth a jot! Exploitation concerning a grey area Honda have yet to tap into has nothing to do with regulation.
