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Formula One has seen yet another controversial result of a Grand Prix as Lewis Hamiton inherited the Canadian GP race win after a controversial 5s penalty for leader Sebastian Vettel. An infuriated Vettel was classified second, ahead of Leclerc in third.
Good to hear.
actually this time I included his DNF only to be able to justify it as borefest.GPR -A wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:00When was the last time you got your prediction of HAM DNF right? I have been reading your predictions for ages now.FrukostScones wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:58this will be a total borefest
VET running off into the distance, HAM dnf LEC 2nd.
in qualy they both had DRS, in the race only Lewis will have it (if he's behind). the slot size is the same on both cars. And we've seen in races that DRS isn't all powerful there are a lot more laps when it isn't enough than when it is. anyway this is why we watch isn't it, to find out, but it's not any kind of given that Lewis can DRS past I don't think
It's not Barcelona but it's not Disneyland either. Everything you do on previous sectors has an effect, car placement, braking points, everything. You can't say that his more aggressive first two sectors didn't cost him. He apologized for "not being able to do it" whatever that means. There was a mistake according to Toto, whatever that means. The team car set up? Lewis didn't do something he should have done? We don't know... but you look at the Q lap and point to where the mistake is, go ahead. When Hamilton makes a mistake he says it and he blames himself for it. It's what he does. Not once did he say or do that in the post race interviews. That he wasn't going to get pole, was certain given the Ferrari's S3 capability. Not sure how you can argue that there was a mistake and that he wouldn't make pole anyway, you seem to have a position arguing to both sides of the coin.Phil wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:05I believe he apologized on team radio and Toto said so too in the post qualifying interview that there was a mistake. I'm really not sure what "vacuum" you are referring to. Lewis was up 1.5 tenths after the first sector and he was purple in S2, yet he lost more in S3 than on his previous best. This isn't Barcelona where you are sacrificing one sector for another because the tires are overheating. Montreal is a high speed full confidence circuit with significant track evolution. Anyway, as I already said, I think Lewis lost around 1 to 1.5 tenths, not more, thus he wouldn't have gotten pole anyway.
The point being made is that with DRS open it’s no difference. However with it being shut it will hurt Ferrari more due to its bigger wing. So bigger Ferrari wing and Mercedes having DRS makes a bigger difference.izzy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:07in qualy they both had DRS, in the race only Lewis will have it (if he's behind). the slot size is the same on both cars. And we've seen in races that DRS isn't all powerful there are a lot more laps when it isn't enough than when it is. anyway this is why we watch isn't it, to find out, but it's not any kind of given that Lewis can DRS past I don't think
Ooooor.. Did something, which he wasn't supposed to (put the car in the wall in practise). Might've hurt his quali a bit, and that's all it takes. Maybe that's what the apology was for a little.
i didnt know Not putting the car in the wall in Friday practice would gain him 0.4 sec in the one straight!
His biggest improvement was in S1 over his previous time - on a track where track evolution is huge. Everyone was improving. The last sector is a essentially a long straight and a chicane - a chicane that can win or lose significant time and poses a substantial risk. If you want to believe that Hamilton sacrificed his S3 for S1 while no one else had this tradeoff to make, go right ahead and believe it.
My point was that DRS makes a difference in the race, that is the point of it, the fact it's open in qualy is irrelevant as they both have it open and the slot is the same. so yes obviously in the race it'll give Lewis some kph, but it might not be enough.Restomaniac wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:35The point being made is that with DRS open it’s no difference. However with it being shut it will hurt Ferrari more due to its bigger wing. So bigger Ferrari wing and Mercedes having DRS makes a bigger difference.