"That is not the way, naturally, that I wanted to win. But I would have been past him had it not been for that wall there, so..."
Thanks to Hamilton & Pirro we now have a second Wall of Champions at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
No, you haven't answered the question so I'll quote it for you!
you keep saying that Lewis should have predicted were Vettel was going to go, when was he supposed to make this prediction?
When approaching the incident, if feasible. This answer is implied in the previous three statements. I present it more literally now.
Never said that, but I did imply that he might have been able to. I presented multiple hypotheticals. You seem particularly upset about one of them.
I do t think Vettel should escape a penalty because it's good for the sport, or because it's popular. I think the penalty wasn't there for the issuing in the first place. SV had oversteer when he hit the kerb rejoining the circuit.Phil wrote:Would it change the incident in any way, if Mercedes had not won the last 6 races and dominated this season this far? If they had been the underdog? In a way it's funny - many hoped (me included) that Vettel and Ferrari would bring the race home today. But nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that in the end, he made a mistake, completely left the track and rejoined the track (partially out of control) and in doing so, blocking Hamilton at the same time. If there had not been a wall, or the track been wider, Hamilton would have easily passed. He didn't because he avoided a collision. If this had happened at i.e. the hair-pin - same result. There's no way he would have held on to his position.DarkSurferZA wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 22:48Well, I think there is something wrong with the stewards office when all the commentators unanimously disagree with a decision.
The stewards job is not to take into account who should have won the race or how many points are at stake. They should judge the incident independently and in complete isolation, which IMO they did.
I feel gutted for Vettel, I really am, but simply because a Ferrari win would have been marvellous for the sport does not change the fact that he did make a mistake under severe pressure and was lucky not to hit a wall or cause a collision with Lewis. Yet he still rejoined in a way that caused the driver he was racing and who forced him into that error in the first place to take avoiding action.
You make a mistake, you pay. Hamilton locked up multiple times at the hair pin and lost time. That's the way it is. I have no doubt, if the gap had been larger and Hamilton had not been on Vettels tail, the incident would have gone unpunished. Yet the error was a direct result of the pressure Hamilton put Vettel under and thus, it wouldn't be fair to let that slide without consequence simply because we all wanted Vettel to win.
We can't simply bend or change the rules because we wanted "a race". Legitimate and authentic racing requires rules and these rules are for the safety and for the fairness of all who participate. I feel most who are slamming the stewards about the rules are doing so from an emotional point of view and not because it was without merit.
My point is, there can't be so many racing drivers who are so far against an fia decision for the decision to be regarded as reasonable.
Thank you very much for this nice summary. Nothing more to say, really.