2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[geogate]

Back then, during the glory days of McLaren TAG-Porsche, there was no road car division of McLaren, they are direct competitors now. Not sure it’ll work.

Exactly - not gonna happen

[Macklaren]

The long rumored Toyota partnership? Hence the "McL will hate me to reveal it?"

[FittingMechanics]

I doubt it is anything substantial.

My guess is that it is something from behind the scenes about Alonso, perhaps McLaren tried to get Alonso back in Landos seat and he rejected them. I find this more likely than some kind of earth shattering engine deal, mainly because the timing coincides exactly with McLaren announcing Lando/Sainz for next year.

About the engine deal, honestly I wouldn't go for it as McLaren. The team got burnt with Honda and betting again on another engine manufacturer is risky (Toyota, Porsche, BMW). Going with an existing engine manufacturer is less of a risk (Mercedes for example) but then it would have been smarter to go to Mercedes immediately, instead of using Renault for a few years. Only way I would see a new manufacturer working is if McLaren gets a junior team and then the junior team uses new engines until they mature enough, kind of what Red Bull could do with Toro Rosso.

What junior team that could be, no idea. Not sure if Haas is really invested long term in F1, especially with problems they are facing this year.

All of this being said, I doubt it's a big thing, most likely Jordan will gossip about Alonso shunning McLaren.

[Ground Effect]

I doubt it is anything substantial.

My guess is that it is something from behind the scenes about Alonso, perhaps McLaren tried to get Alonso back in Landos seat and he rejected them. I find this more likely than some kind of earth shattering engine deal, mainly because the timing coincides exactly with McLaren announcing Lando/Sainz for next year.

About the engine deal, honestly I wouldn't go for it as McLaren. The team got burnt with Honda and betting again on another engine manufacturer is risky (Toyota, Porsche, BMW). Going with an existing engine manufacturer is less of a risk (Mercedes for example) but then it would have been smarter to go to Mercedes immediately, instead of using Renault for a few years. Only way I would see a new manufacturer working is if McLaren gets a junior team and then the junior team uses new engines until they mature enough, kind of what Red Bull could do with Toro Rosso.

What junior team that could be, no idea. Not sure if Haas is really invested long term in F1, especially with problems they are facing this year.

All of this being said, I doubt it's a big thing, most likely Jordan will gossip about Alonso shunning McLaren.

That wouldn’t qualify as a gem, why wait till Sunday for that? I would be inclined to believe it’s something about future happenings, something that will be validated. It’s easy to say Fernando turned down McLaren, especially since both seats have been confirmed already. If it was before Lando was confirmed, then it would carry a little weight, but could still be regarded as hedging his bets. If he comes out and say McLaren with partner with this engine or get this sponsor or that investor, that’s more like insider info.

[proteus]

Don't know for sure, but I thought that the Mercedes engine was better packaged. It's also more powerful, so it could help them both ways.

I will take the wildest guess out of you all. Porsche is going to enter in 2021, with Mclaren as their works team. Second chance for the Mclaren to repeat their glory days.

Back then, during the glory days of McLaren TAG-Porsche, there was no road car division of McLaren, they are direct competitors now. Not sure it’ll work.

Mercedes works with Renault (or atleast have worked together) in road division, Aston Martin and Honda are both present on the RedBull.

If Porsche decides to partner with Mclaren and if it works, than it is a win win fo both of companies, since rich people will buy a Porsch if they like a Porsch, and they will buy a Mclaren if they like a Mclaren, and in many cases they own both and a Ferrari, Lambo and etc...

Unhealthy apetite of rich people means that luxury sports car manufacturers have practically nothing to fear, since those picky people need to have the newest and best machinery. As long as both companies are producing state of the art cars, they are safe.

[proteus]

I doubt it is anything substantial.

My guess is that it is something from behind the scenes about Alonso, perhaps McLaren tried to get Alonso back in Landos seat and he rejected them. I find this more likely than some kind of earth shattering engine deal, mainly because the timing coincides exactly with McLaren announcing Lando/Sainz for next year.

About the engine deal, honestly I wouldn't go for it as McLaren. The team got burnt with Honda and betting again on another engine manufacturer is risky (Toyota, Porsche, BMW). Going with an existing engine manufacturer is less of a risk (Mercedes for example) but then it would have been smarter to go to Mercedes immediately, instead of using Renault for a few years. Only way I would see a new manufacturer working is if McLaren gets a junior team and then the junior team uses new engines until they mature enough, kind of what Red Bull could do with Toro Rosso.

What junior team that could be, no idea. Not sure if Haas is really invested long term in F1, especially with problems they are facing this year.

All of this being said, I doubt it's a big thing, most likely Jordan will gossip about Alonso shunning McLaren.

Why would you replace a rising star with an excellent personality and great talent with a driver who is at his end of the career? Not to mention Lando is british, and fantastic for the PR.

I was reading that Alonso was trying to put himself in Redbull for 2020 and he was cleanly rejected, especilly by Honda. Many will be very offended by what i will be stating next, but this is now a clear indicator about Fernandos personality and mentality. When he was driving for Honda, he was publicy ranting about them and in the live radio talk, now when Honda has won a race, he instantly wants to drive for them. It is not healthy to have such two faced driver in the team.

Carlos and Lando are a perfect combination for Mclaren to have. The only replacement for Carlos could be Ricciardo.

[FittingMechanics]

That wouldn’t qualify as a gem, why wait till Sunday for that? I would be inclined to believe it’s something about future happenings, something that will be validated. It’s easy to say Fernando turned down McLaren, especially since both seats have been confirmed already. If it was before Lando was confirmed, then it would carry a little weight, but could still be regarded as hedging his bets. If he comes out and say McLaren with partner with this engine or get this sponsor or that investor, that’s more like insider info.

I don't think a gem needs to mean it's positive, it means it's interesting bit of information. To me personally, getting information about a new sponsor seems so insignificant that I wouldn't really classify it as that interesting that he would be hyping it up. New engine partnership would classify, even could be called a "bombshell".

Why would you replace a rising star with an excellent personality and great talent with a driver who is at his end of the career? Not to mention Lando is british, and fantastic for the PR.

I was reading that Alonso was trying to put himself in Redbull for 2020 and he was cleanly rejected, especilly by Honda. Many will be very offended by what i will be stating next, but this is now a clear indicator about Fernandos personality and mentality. When he was driving for Honda, he was publicy ranting about them and in the live radio talk, now when Honda has won a race, he instantly wants to drive for them. It is not healthy to have such two faced driver in the team.

Carlos and Lando are a perfect combination for Mclaren to have. The only replacement for Carlos could be Ricciardo.

I'm not saying it is true or that it makes sense, I agree with your assessment. I'm saying that I don't think Eddie Jordan has anything substantial but rather that it is a gossip type information regarding Alonso.

[_cerber1]

Back then, during the glory days of McLaren TAG-Porsche, there was no road car division of McLaren, they are direct competitors now. Not sure it’ll work.

McLaren is not a competitor to Porsche, the Germans sell as many cars a month as the British do in a year. And the various special versions of both manufacturers sold out long before they were released. So that the arrival of Porsche as a supplier of engines is quite real.

[geogate]

if there is crossover in the market place, they are competitors - they could supply engines, sure ... but not a works deal

[Lucky]

https://twitter.com/JunaidSamodien_/sta ... 13280?s=19

[FittingMechanics]

"Carlos' car is being prepped for an Inter. It's a bigger tyre than the slicks, so it involves grinding away a little bit of the floor to make it fit. If the rest of the day looks dry, the bodywork technicians will bond-in a new piece after the session."

Wow, so they need to grind away the floor to make inters fit.

[RonDennis]

You have to be out of your mind if you actually believe a new manufacturer will join F1 with McLaren in 2021. There is no chance at all that McLaren will take that risk after the Honda situation.

[mclaren111]

You have to be out of your mind if you actually believe a new manufacturer will join F1 with McLaren in 2021. There is no chance at all that McLaren will take that risk after the Honda situation.

Never say Never... Crazier things have happened...

[mwillems]

It could be a big title sponsor, it could be an engine, it could be Alonso related,.

Or, this could be Channel 4's only live race of the season, so why not entice viewers in by dangling a carrot about the biggest british team ahead of the race, made up or otherwise.

Ever seen those adverts on the internet about how some people make massive amounts of money doing something special? They'd hate it if you found out?!.... click here so we can reveal how you can copy their trick!

Sounds familiar doesn't it, particularly from that genius/muppet Eddie Jordan. I don't expect more than that, but will willingly admit I am interested to find out what is said and still then try to decide if it is completely made up. That man will not only say and do what he needs to do to get the numbers up, but make it obvious it was him that did it, that's (in part) how he made $475 million.

[McG]

You have to be out of your mind if you actually believe a new manufacturer will join F1 with McLaren in 2021. There is no chance at all that McLaren will take that risk after the Honda situation.

How the hell do you know. You know nothing like everyone else at this moment so don't be so sure.