2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[M840TR]

The pace was there in the car. Lando did an excellent job and keeping in mind this is his very first season he comes across as someone who can nail a lap under pressure. I think Sainz struggled in general throughout the weekend and according to him he found some confidence in Q1. However lack of rear grip he attributed to balance issues and also the new tarmac. I think the car had the legs on Renault today but there are days this happens so Sainz has to try and nail his start like usual and with medium-hard strategy he can get in to points. Mclaren showed good long run pace on Friday and i think points are possible for both cars. Today was frustrating in that clearly we could see the car having the pace over midfield rivals all weekend up until Q2 which is where the track conditions and wind caused balance issues.

Agreed. I think on raw pace they're still the midfield leaders but due to some reason either the car or the drivers couldn't adjust to increased wind levels etc in Q2 & Q3; no wonder then Norris' fastest lap was in Q1 which was a tenth better than Ricciardo's Q3 lap. They're also better in the corners than Renault so should mean better tyre management & pace in race.

[McG]

It's not a crystal ball.It's logic. We have a good gap in points and we are the most consistent team from the midfields. Mclaren has to literally --- things themselves in order to lose.

Blind faith and hope is not logic.

Should be a good close race tomorrow but........

YOU NEVER KNOW

Logic is not blind faith, logic says McLaren 4th

Too many pointy ears in this nonsense conversation. I'm out.

[ScottR267]

I have heard the rumours of Telefonica and Vodafone are trying to get into the game.

However, Zac Brown has been having the issue of sponsors ringing his phone off the hook.

All the present sponsors have been signing up long term, some increasing their exposure as well.

Overall, i can see the McLaren budget increase for 2020, this years budget is a estimated €165m - $175m for the team, under Honda it was €80m higher, but if they can get that closer to the €225m mark, and spend it correctly and in a smart way, i think they can easily challenge Red Bull on merit, and even challenge the Mercedes and Ferraris.

On Engines, i can see them staying with Renault long term now. I have heard murmurs that McLaren are interested in running a junior team in F1, one that is ran on a budget of €100m maximum. As Ron should have done in 2017 when Manor went to the wall for the final time, bought all the assets for the price of their debts, that's was only £9.3m or so at the time, then done what Lawrence Stroll did last year with Racing point. Switched to the Mercedes power unit until Honda got their act together with the new team. Im sure they could have ran hot young drivers in the smaller team, it was a modded opportunity i think. It would have given McLaren a second vote in the F1 structure as well.

Two very big companies if that is true. Would be surprising seeing Vodafone back however....

The rumour with Vodafone, is a dual one, they are also talking to FOM about being the 6th partner of F1, alongside Rolex and Emirates, that is a 5 year deal for €35m a year deal similar to the other FOM deals.

Telefonica would be a better bet as they could do the BAT thing and rebrand for what region they are in the world, so bring O2, Movistar and Telefonica itself into the market place, side pods would probably be ideal, but id say if they do a deal for €12m cash and €3m technical (mobile phone provision for the race team) for the cockpit sides would be a ideal situation.

Another company that would look good on the McLaren is Intel, as Ferrari have AMD, the provision of Intel on the car with Dell would make sense as wherever Dell have been in F1 Intel have also been (BMW Sauber/Caterham) and would also put Intel back in F1 when they have been seeing AMD take a dent then a slice and now a huge proportion of the tech market with their CPUs recently. A nice deal here for €8m cash and €5m technical (if Seidl wants to upgrade their CFD potential with some nice new Xeon chips) would also make sense, and mix in well with a blue background with a white font/logo.

The McLaren is getting quite crowded for sponsors, but there is options and ways to fill the space. A good headache to have as a F1 team, especially after since 2014 from when the team started to loose sponsors and the cars looked a bit sparse. Im of a lot school mind when i like my cars to look full but not crowded with advertising, and cars look best with it like that.

Where have you seen these rumours as I have not seen anything nor find anything? Are they from a reputable source?

[mwillems]

I feel Norris can scrap with Gasly.

How is that possible considering RB is so far ahead and that Gasly improved coniderably?

Yes he starts ahead but Vettel will clear him quickly, Riccardo will likely drop back in the race as the McLaren has much better tire wear. That leaves Gasly vs Norris, if he gets ahead of Gasly he has enough to keep him behind.

Yes I agree with this. Lando is the rookie but I feel he has superior racecraft to Gasly, where one of his big issues is getting past on track. If Norris can get past at the start or hang on for a few laps to pressure him then he has a chance I feel.

But I think the tyres will decide it. It seems many teams may not be fully prepared or comfortable with what the car will do tomorrow. I would not be surprised if the best form of attack from Lando tomorrow is a well paced and balanced drive. I say that and realise again that a lot of our points come from that. Strategy and tyre management. Gasly I think is on Meds so the start will be interesting.

If 11th and below can 1 stop then maybe Ric, Lando and co are sitting ducks if they dont make good ground at the start.

[RonDennis]

Two very big companies if that is true. Would be surprising seeing Vodafone back however....

The rumour with Vodafone, is a dual one, they are also talking to FOM about being the 6th partner of F1, alongside Rolex and Emirates, that is a 5 year deal for €35m a year deal similar to the other FOM deals.

Telefonica would be a better bet as they could do the BAT thing and rebrand for what region they are in the world, so bring O2, Movistar and Telefonica itself into the market place, side pods would probably be ideal, but id say if they do a deal for €12m cash and €3m technical (mobile phone provision for the race team) for the cockpit sides would be a ideal situation.

Another company that would look good on the McLaren is Intel, as Ferrari have AMD, the provision of Intel on the car with Dell would make sense as wherever Dell have been in F1 Intel have also been (BMW Sauber/Caterham) and would also put Intel back in F1 when they have been seeing AMD take a dent then a slice and now a huge proportion of the tech market with their CPUs recently. A nice deal here for €8m cash and €5m technical (if Seidl wants to upgrade their CFD potential with some nice new Xeon chips) would also make sense, and mix in well with a blue background with a white font/logo.

The McLaren is getting quite crowded for sponsors, but there is options and ways to fill the space. A good headache to have as a F1 team, especially after since 2014 from when the team started to loose sponsors and the cars looked a bit sparse. Im of a lot school mind when i like my cars to look full but not crowded with advertising, and cars look best with it like that.

Where have you seen these rumours as I have not seen anything nor find anything? Are they from a reputable source?

Total nonsense.

[Mansell89]

Norris looked real smooth on his lap yesterday and that bodes well for tyre management today I hope.

Hopefully the same for Sainz who has that option to go much longer on first stint.

[Darth-Piekus]

First of all we need both cars to have a clear start with a position gain if possible. Norris especially has to try to pass the Renault in front of him and chase Gasly but the most important part is to be safe from crashes.

[martinbeiker]

Eddie Jordan: McLaren to use Mercedes engines

[Ground Effect]

Eddie Jordan: McLaren to use Mercedes engines

2020 or 2021?

[Darth-Piekus]

Why would we ever change the Engines again? Won't we need to change the whole philosophy again just because it's a different engine than Renault?

[Ground Effect]

Why would we ever change the Engines again? Won't we need to change the whole philosophy again just because it's a different engine than Renault?

If it’s 2021, everything changes, before then would be ridiculous.

[SmallSoldier]

Why would we ever change the Engines again? Won't we need to change the whole philosophy again just because it's a different engine than Renault?

Not really... I agree that the best would be to maintain stability and that the car seems to be happy with the Renault in the back... But the Mercedes is still one of the best engines out there, wouldn’t be an issue to make the change and at least one less variable to deal with since we all know it’s a powerful reliable engine.

I believe that most overstate the difficulty of changing engines... It isn’t that hard really (STR with Honda or Sauber with Ferrari last year as an example... Red Bull really hasn’t had any problems with Honda this year either).

Back to the race... What about Norris and Sainz... Great start by both


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[Darth-Piekus]

I think also that 2021 would be the best since everything resets but who says that Mercedes will give an engine that is as suitable as it will be for their cars?

[Darth-Piekus]

Ricciardo is in the pits. A quick lap and I would say pit quickly unless we can hold the tyres for one pit stop.

[Darth-Piekus]

Damn we lost the place to Ricciardo. Seems that we lost that place from Ricciardo. In the meantime we see a fantastic battle between Leclerc and Verstappen.

Safety Car. Should we pit Sainz?

Well Sainz pitted and hes going till the end with the Hards and a great strategy. Norris didn't but doesn't he also have Hards? Is he going till the end? We also got Albon between Norris and Ricciardo so he's gonna keep him busy.