2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Big Tea]

I was impressed with Norris owning up to being the problem, not the car.
We so often see drivers say things like there is something wrong with the car but they can not find it etc.
Knowing the fault is with him not the car is a huge strength to his future where instead of sending the team down dead ends looking for non existent problems and moving his car out of the grove for when they realise, h can accept the car is fine and concentrate on where the real problem lies.

He really does have the makings of a champion

[M840TR]

We haven’t had a wet race so far this season, so it’s anyone guess how the car will perform in those conditions... Nevertheless, both Sainz and Norris are very capable in the rain and it could reward the team if they actually went for a “rain” setup (which in my opinion is something that Mercedes also favored given the gap to Alfa Romeo in qualifying).

I really hope it’s the case (that it rains) since it could create a very interesting race


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They did it with both cars in Silverstone and were consequently miles ahead in the race compared to several hundredths on Saturday. I think it's a good decision for rain or otherwise since it delivers low tyre deg & high df necessary for wet weather. The car was quite stable throughout the session as well unlike some others. They also drastically improved S3 performance to get within 0.4 sec of pole, 0.2 to Redbull and matching midfielders.

[bill shoe]

I was impressed with Norris owning up to being the problem, not the car.
We so often see drivers say things like there is something wrong with the car but they can not find it etc.
Knowing the fault is with him not the car is a huge strength to his future where instead of sending the team down dead ends looking for non existent problems and moving his car out of the grove for when they realise, h can accept the car is fine and concentrate on where the real problem lies.

He really does have the makings of a champion

The team eliminates drama by confirming both drivers for next year early this year. Then Norris feels comfortable taking responsibility for qualy result. Then team doesn’t waste time looking for answers to “what was off with car?” Teamwork builds in self-reinforcing circle. Nice.

[SmallSoldier]

We haven’t had a wet race so far this season, so it’s anyone guess how the car will perform in those conditions... Nevertheless, both Sainz and Norris are very capable in the rain and it could reward the team if they actually went for a “rain” setup (which in my opinion is something that Mercedes also favored given the gap to Alfa Romeo in qualifying).

I really hope it’s the case (that it rains) since it could create a very interesting race


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They did it with both cars in Silverstone and were consequently miles ahead in the race compared to several hundredths on Saturday. I think it's a good decision for rain or otherwise since it delivers low tyre deg & high df necessary for wet weather. The car was quite stable throughout the session as well unlike some others. They also drastically improved S3 performance to get within 0.4 sec of pole, 0.2 to Redbull and matching midfielders.

I agree... The proof is in the pudding though... So tomorrow we will see if it was the right decision... But, even when they were outqualified by Alfa and Haas, they were in the mix once again and in Q3... The last time the team was in Q3 at this track was in 2014... If I’m not wrong, they are the most improved team in compared to 2018 once again, which maintains that trend.


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[SmallSoldier]

I was impressed with Norris owning up to being the problem, not the car.
We so often see drivers say things like there is something wrong with the car but they can not find it etc.
Knowing the fault is with him not the car is a huge strength to his future where instead of sending the team down dead ends looking for non existent problems and moving his car out of the grove for when they realise, h can accept the car is fine and concentrate on where the real problem lies.

He really does have the makings of a champion

In this case though, the car did had an issue.

It is undeniable that he has a great attitude.


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[Big Tea]

I was impressed with Norris owning up to being the problem, not the car.
We so often see drivers say things like there is something wrong with the car but they can not find it etc.
Knowing the fault is with him not the car is a huge strength to his future where instead of sending the team down dead ends looking for non existent problems and moving his car out of the grove for when they realise, h can accept the car is fine and concentrate on where the real problem lies.

He really does have the makings of a champion

In this case though, the car did had an issue.

It is undeniable that he has a great attitude.


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He told Paddock Pass's Will Buxton he just could not get it together. He was only looking for hundredths, so it would have been no big deal.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqbYELT7GL4)

[M840TR]

We haven’t had a wet race so far this season, so it’s anyone guess how the car will perform in those conditions... Nevertheless, both Sainz and Norris are very capable in the rain and it could reward the team if they actually went for a “rain” setup (which in my opinion is something that Mercedes also favored given the gap to Alfa Romeo in qualifying).

I really hope it’s the case (that it rains) since it could create a very interesting race


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They did it with both cars in Silverstone and were consequently miles ahead in the race compared to several hundredths on Saturday. I think it's a good decision for rain or otherwise since it delivers low tyre deg & high df necessary for wet weather. The car was quite stable throughout the session as well unlike some others. They also drastically improved S3 performance to get within 0.4 sec of pole, 0.2 to Redbull and matching midfielders.

I agree... The proof is in the pudding though... So tomorrow we will see if it was the right decision... But, even when they were outqualified by Alfa and Haas, they were in the mix once again and in Q3... The last time the team was in Q3 at this track was in 2014... If I’m not wrong, they are the most improved team in compared to 2018 once again, which maintains that trend.


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Haas shouldn't be a threat in race on paper and Carlos is great at starts as well. With the engines converging on Sunday too they can definitely lead the midfield tomorrow.

[SmallSoldier]

They did it with both cars in Silverstone and were consequently miles ahead in the race compared to several hundredths on Saturday. I think it's a good decision for rain or otherwise since it delivers low tyre deg & high df necessary for wet weather. The car was quite stable throughout the session as well unlike some others. They also drastically improved S3 performance to get within 0.4 sec of pole, 0.2 to Redbull and matching midfielders.

I agree... The proof is in the pudding though... So tomorrow we will see if it was the right decision... But, even when they were outqualified by Alfa and Haas, they were in the mix once again and in Q3... The last time the team was in Q3 at this track was in 2014... If I’m not wrong, they are the most improved team in compared to 2018 once again, which maintains that trend.


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Haas shouldn't be a threat in race on paper and Carlos is great at starts as well. With the engines converging on Sunday too they can definitely lead the midfield tomorrow.

I really hope that will be the case! Carlos has had a run of great races lately and comes with a lot of Momentum on his favor... Lando’s strategy could also be an interesting one, I really hope they do something daring (like putting him on Hard tires instead of Mediums and really go long in the first stint, just in case the rain doesn’t show up until later, take advantage of a safety car or have an opportunity to really attack in the last part of the race).


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[diffuser]

It wasn’t a gaffe... via TeamStream

Carlos fairs up and goes. He's running an old set of Soft tyres for this run – saving his final new set for the last attempt of the session.

Don't know what to tell you... that contradicts what the F1 tool showed.

Only 1 set of softs with 5 laps. Both runs happened in Q1.

Not trying to be argumentative... But the F1 tool has been wrong before (to the point of showing even the wrong compound)... I believe that the TeamStream information says more than the F1 app.

What I find interesting is that today, S2 was were the team lost some time... Could they have gone for a higher downforce setup thinking about the race and potential rain tomorrow? Compromised qualifying because of it?

Even when Lando missed to get out of Q1, the margin was pretty small to P15 and getting through... With such a tight midfield, small mistakes cost big... I’m hoping the team thought more about the race and hopefully the conditions play a role.


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Doesn't it suck though?

We pay money and they lie like dogs.

[SmallSoldier]

Don't know what to tell you... that contradicts what the F1 tool showed.

Only 1 set of softs with 5 laps. Both runs happened in Q1.

Not trying to be argumentative... But the F1 tool has been wrong before (to the point of showing even the wrong compound)... I believe that the TeamStream information says more than the F1 app.

What I find interesting is that today, S2 was were the team lost some time... Could they have gone for a higher downforce setup thinking about the race and potential rain tomorrow? Compromised qualifying because of it?

Even when Lando missed to get out of Q1, the margin was pretty small to P15 and getting through... With such a tight midfield, small mistakes cost big... I’m hoping the team thought more about the race and hopefully the conditions play a role.


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Doesn't it suck though?

We pay money and they lie like dogs.

The product is pretty poor for what we pay, I wouldn’t say that they are “lying”, but they make mistakes way too often.

Check also the available tires... You will notice that Carlos had 4 sorts available (they get one free for Q3)... 2 for Q1, 2 for Q2... Used for first run of Q3 and new “free” tire for last run of Q3


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[diffuser]

Not trying to be argumentative... But the F1 tool has been wrong before (to the point of showing even the wrong compound)... I believe that the TeamStream information says more than the F1 app.

What I find interesting is that today, S2 was were the team lost some time... Could they have gone for a higher downforce setup thinking about the race and potential rain tomorrow? Compromised qualifying because of it?

Even when Lando missed to get out of Q1, the margin was pretty small to P15 and getting through... With such a tight midfield, small mistakes cost big... I’m hoping the team thought more about the race and hopefully the conditions play a role.


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Doesn't it suck though?

We pay money and they lie like dogs.

The product is pretty poor for what we pay, I wouldn’t say that they are “lying”, but they make mistakes way too often.

Check also the available tires... You will notice that Carlos had 4 sorts available (they get one free for Q3)... 2 for Q1, 2 for Q2... Used for first run of Q3 and new “free” tire for last run of Q3


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They show he used 5 sets on the android tool.

[Lucky]

https://twitter.com/andihaupt1/status/1 ... 33344?s=19

[Mansell89]

Couple of things guys:

1) Anyone know if either of the McLarens were set up for higher downforce in race trim today given the likelihood of damp/wet conditions?

2) Norris has 3 brand new sets of red marker soft tyres available- how much of an advantage could that be if we got damp conditions (as opposed to needing inter or full wet?)


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[charliesmithhd]

Couple of things guys:

1) Anyone know if either of the McLarens were set up for higher downforce in race trim today given the likelihood of damp/wet conditions?

2) Norris has 3 brand new sets of red marker soft tyres available- how much of an advantage could that be if we got damp conditions (as opposed to needing inter or full wet?)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAgFxLJX4AABN1R.jpg:large

Speed trap suggests this, however they may have ran higher downforce for last sector.

[Mansell89]

Cheers mate- any idea where I can see the speed trap data?