Is the Renault Engine really that bad?

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Is the Renault Engine really that bad?

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Anyone notice how easily Alonso outdragged Kova when they were side by side without any help of slipstream?

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No. Yes.

myurr
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Yeah it wasn't even just traction - Alonso pulled away a bit more once they were up to racing speed through horsepower alone. Think they may have some explaining to do.

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I 've heard that Renault engine become stronger after Monza , but i do not know how stronger .

I suppose that scarbs or Tomba can shed some light on this
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timbo
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bar555 wrote:I suppose that scarbs or Tomba can shed some light on this
Tomba already said that Renault did some work on "reliability" (notice engine blow for Webber).
http://www.f1technical.net/development/206

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All the teams have been making modifications that improve reliability but also have the unfortunate :lol: side effect of increasing HP. When a team makes these changes are made they are sent round to all the teams and they all just approve the change - and then see if they can do something similar to their engine. Apparently Renault weren't really catching on to this until the late part of this season...

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timbo wrote:
bar555 wrote:I suppose that scarbs or Tomba can shed some light on this
Tomba already said that Renault did some work on "reliability" (notice engine blow for Webber).
http://www.f1technical.net/development/206
I cannot believe that everyone isnt doing the tyre heating thingie...

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Conceptual wrote:I cannot believe that everyone isnt doing the tyre heating thingie...
I believe that Ferrari's rear wheel shields are there partially to hold heat.

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For the longest time, Flavio Briatore was following the engine freeze to the letter, and to the spirit of the freeze...I'm sure Alonso was able to convince him to reverse his position on the matter.

So yes, their engine development lagged for a good chunk of the season, but they've clearly made things more "reliable" lately. Thing about Alonso is, he's going to race hard no matter what, so hir results are a pretty good indicator of how the car is performing on a given day

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The FOZ wrote:For the longest time, Flavio Briatore was following the engine freeze to the letter, and to the spirit of the freeze...I'm sure Alonso was able to convince him to reverse his position on the matter.

So yes, their engine development lagged for a good chunk of the season, but they've clearly made things more "reliable" lately. Thing about Alonso is, he's going to race hard no matter what, so hir results are a pretty good indicator of how the car is performing on a given day
I don't think that Flavio is all that scrupulous when it comes to the spirit of the rules. I don't mean he is worser than he is; there's just a very good reason to stop development of the engine - you can save some money and use it for something else. Renault was probably overoptimistic on the cost/yield estimation of what they can save on engine and what saved money would gain them on say aero or suspension.
Anyway it's good to see Renault back again, I just hope their effort won't hurt them next season!

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*IF* HK's brake was binding and causing friction it would have stunted his top speed...however the Renault does appear to have reduced the deficit.
- Axle