2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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charliesmithhd wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 15:38
mclaren111 wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 15:36
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA0H-UfW4AE ... ame=medium


Dufry a new sponsor or one race deal ??
Its been a sponsor before, at france
BAT have been substituting with their major outlets whenever the race in a country with strict advertising restrictions.
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Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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M840TR wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 14:12
diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:14
Not sure why "the who designed the part" that makes a difference.
Establishes that it wasn't Mclaren's fault.

Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:25
I’d be puzzled if the POU suspension isn’t on the cars for Hungary, apparently RP have adopted it as well, as indicated by Fabrega. Not sure if it’s making its debut in Hungary or was there in German6 as well.
It wasn't.
It's pointing a finger, that might illustrate a crack in the relationship.

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diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 19:32
M840TR wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 14:12
diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:14


Not sure why "the who designed the part" that makes a difference.
Establishes that it wasn't Mclaren's fault.

Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:25
I’d be puzzled if the POU suspension isn’t on the cars for Hungary, apparently RP have adopted it as well, as indicated by Fabrega. Not sure if it’s making its debut in Hungary or was there in German6 as well.
It wasn't.
It's pointing a finger, that might illustrate a crack in the relationship.
The article's author said it not the team.

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diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 19:32
M840TR wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 14:12
diffuser wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:14


Not sure why "the who designed the part" that makes a difference.
Establishes that it wasn't Mclaren's fault.

Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 13:25
I’d be puzzled if the POU suspension isn’t on the cars for Hungary, apparently RP have adopted it as well, as indicated by Fabrega. Not sure if it’s making its debut in Hungary or was there in German6 as well.
It wasn't.
It's pointing a finger, that might illustrate a crack in the relationship.
I’m not sure it’s pointing finger, just an update on the situation, the conclusion that it was even a Renault component was arrived at by Motorsport.com, McLaren didn’t confirm.

A McLaren spokesperson told Motorsport.com: "Lando's PU suffered an ancillary failure that forced us to stop the engine. We will fit a new design in Hungary. The PU has not been damaged and will be reused in Hungary."

Although no more details were given, it is understood that the part concerned was a Renault design.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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I was a bit worried with the early season reliability woes for Renault, them being on the back foot meant no spec C. I’m relieved this isn’t the case.
Saw this on the autosport forum, by the way.

The four drivers from the Renault and McLaren Formula 1 teams are set to take grid penalties at Spa and Monza when a new Spec C power unit is introduced.

Nico Hulkenberg, Daniel Ricciardo, Carlos Sainz Jr and Lando Norris have already taken penalty hits this season, and the introduction of new spec means that in each case they are likely to start from the back of the grid.

"We will have penalties after the break, we know that," Renault F1 boss Cyril Abiteboul told Autosport.

"Unfortunately that's been the plan since Bahrain, since Melbourne even for Carlos, when he had that problem with the MGU-K that caused the whole engine to be lost because of the fire.

"We know that we are on the back foot and that we are going to have to swallow a few penalties. They will come in sync with a new spec of engine [and] that will be the final spec, the Spec C.
"I don't want to confirm when and for whom that will come, but that will mean penalties and also a bit of extra power."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14513 ... s-expected
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:00
The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.
The worst part is that there doesn’t seem to be a solution, or at least a plan for a solution in sight.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:40
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:00
The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.
The worst part is that there doesn’t seem to be a solution, or at least a plan for a solution in sight.
There is a simple solution. Ross Brawn said last year (in one of Ted Kravitz’s Notebook in Russia I think?) that teams are spending so much money on engine reliability testing nowadays that it would actually be cheaper for them to just to buy more engines, even though they cost millions of dollars each, and that he was looking to increase this allocation.

I seriously hope he keeps his word as this is easily my least favourite thing about F1. Five engine elements per season would mean more genuine racing across the season rather than grid penalties deciding championship placings.

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Jackles-UK wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 23:18
Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:40
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:00
The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.
The worst part is that there doesn’t seem to be a solution, or at least a plan for a solution in sight.
There is a simple solution. Ross Brawn said last year (in one of Ted Kravitz’s Notebook in Russia I think?) that teams are spending so much money on engine reliability testing nowadays that it would actually be cheaper for them to just to buy more engines, even though they cost millions of dollars each, and that he was looking to increase this allocation.

I seriously hope he keeps his word as this is easily my least favourite thing about F1. Five engine elements per season would mean more genuine racing across the season rather than grid penalties deciding championship placings.
All those remarks about costs seem just wrong to me.
The engine itself certainly doesn't cost millions. The price the customers pay just depends on the development budget and what amount the marketing deems sustainable to make F1 worth their time and money.
And reliability testing would be the same with any engine allocation. It wouldn't matter if you use an engine per race or one per season. Every engine can do a certain number of qualy laps, and high power laps and cruising laps. Therefore you would want to maximise your engine power of the effective engine lifetime. No matter if it is 1 race or a season.

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It's simply timescale, it takes far too long to validate parts for that duration, with more engines you could reduce the timescale of your testing on the dyno's, a massive part of the cost of the engine is the shear amount of durability testing required to get those engines to run 7 races every single time at full power.

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PhillipM wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 01:55
It's simply timescale, it takes far too long to validate parts for that duration, with more engines you could reduce the timescale of your testing on the dyno's, a massive part of the cost of the engine is the shear amount of durability testing required to get those engines to run 7 races every single time at full power.
And when the manufacturers achieve that, they ensure no one will join their little party out of sheer hopelessness.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:00
The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.

Agree 1000%.... And on TV the sound is Horrible... :cry: :cry:

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So guys you can watch every free practice in 1080p for free on https://tv3m.si/f1-v-zivo/ without commentary. So just pure sound and team radios. No ads nothing.

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:17
So guys you can watch every free practice in 1080p for free on https://tv3m.si/f1-v-zivo/ without commentary. So just pure sound and team radios. No ads nothing.
From UK it says "Access to this video content has been restricted" any way around it? (without VPN)
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Big Tea wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:34
NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:17
So guys you can watch every free practice in 1080p for free on https://tv3m.si/f1-v-zivo/ without commentary. So just pure sound and team radios. No ads nothing.
From UK it says "Access to this video content has been restricted" any way around it? (without VPN)
Oh sorry did not know that it is region locked... my bad.