2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[SmallSoldier]

What’s wrong with you people? How long have you been watching F1? Just look at the jump the made compared to last year, it’s an amazing job and they don’t even have Alonso and are getting outspend 5:3. Without any budget caps it will be nearly impossible to reach the podium on pure pace.

I think you're maybe getting the wrong gist of it. It's absolutely brilliant and exciting to see us be in this position, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable so far this year. Being best of the rest is half of the target, but the other is closing the gap to the front, which is what the team themselves are targeting most. Probably track specific, but today it was relatively larger than in recent races.

We can forget that the top 3 are also developing their cars and they do so from a way better starting point.

The fact that they are closing the gap to the front compared to last year and still fighting to be “Best of the Rest” is an achievement in and on itself.

I’m actually very impressed with the performance today, in reality this is a track that wasn’t supposed to play into this year’s cars characteristics and strengths... The likes of Renault and Alfa were on paper stronger due to their low speed corner advantage... Which tells us that the team is finally understanding and developing that area.

Let’s go through the race tomorrow first... No points are given in Qualifying and we have had our fair share of bad luck and retirements... If the team can extend their gap to 5th before the summer brake, it will be mission accomplished so far.


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[SmallSoldier]

for the podium just go back to last week a toro rosso was in it and for the futur maybe we can design a good car and be more near the front as a fan i believe we can do that

You are using STR’s podium as a measuring stick? That was very much a lucky podium and not one that came out of the pace of their car.


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yes not on pure performance of course but in difficult conditions its possible even tomorow if we have a crasy race its possible to get a podium

Getting a podium would be great and I’m sure we all would celebrate it, but more important is to keep showing improvement every weekend than getting lucky on a race.


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[f1rules]

Well honestly as it turned out, im not so sure this track is so bad for mclaren, or they just made huge progress, look at the result, clear 4th, even more clear then other tracks that should have suited them, so im not compltely buying into that, but i quess we will know when they Hit tracks that should suit them, Regarding performance. No one is expecting wins or podiums, just saying 1.3 is a lot on a “easy” track like this, and adding to that, seidl himselfes stated that with the ressources at hand mclaren should be doing better and thats whats he/they are focused on, but all that said, mclaren has been a complete joy to follow this year! And the sooner 4th is secure the sooner they can add more ressources to next year

[fouad1979]

we're improving man that's for sure and the next couple of races will prove that the problem is we're going to take penality for the next spec engine in Spa or monza depend of the team choice

[godlameroso]

McLaren 2019 is .4 seconds faster than 2017 Ferrari, 2019 McLaren could have fought for podiums last year. They're 1.2 seconds off the pace this year, such is the speed of development. It's much better than the 1.7-2.3 seconds they were missing the last few years.

I like their trajectory, and if they keep improving in a linear fashion they should be nipping at the heels of the top teams next season. The goal should be to qualify within a second of pole, if they can manage that this year they should celebrate, and know they're on the right path.

[SmallSoldier]

McLaren 2019 is .4 seconds faster than 2017 Ferrari, 2019 McLaren could have fought for podiums last year. They're 1.2 seconds off the pace this year, such is the speed of development. It's much better than the 1.7-2.3 seconds they were missing the last few years.

I like their trajectory, and if they keep improving in a linear fashion they should be nipping at the heels of the top teams next season. The goal should be to qualify within a second of pole, if they can manage that this year they should celebrate, and know they're on the right path.

Exactly... Very happy with the performance so far this year.

It will be interesting what happens after the break since I would expect them to move quickly into 2020 if they get good results between this race and Monza.


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[Darth-Piekus]

We started in Australia Qualifications 1.8 off the pole from Hamilton on a stage that didn't suit the car and now on Hungaroring on yet another stage that doesn't suit the car we closed the gap by a third. Yes it is a long way to go but it won't really take much time if they keep developing as fast as this.

[rogazilla]

Is it wrong that I hope McLaren beats Renault so bad rest of the season and next that Renault decides to sell the team and setup a partnership with McLaren as the engine supplier and works team? Renault can turn into McLarens b team call it Prost

[godlameroso]

McLaren 2019 is .4 seconds faster than 2017 Ferrari, 2019 McLaren could have fought for podiums last year. They're 1.2 seconds off the pace this year, such is the speed of development. It's much better than the 1.7-2.3 seconds they were missing the last few years.

I like their trajectory, and if they keep improving in a linear fashion they should be nipping at the heels of the top teams next season. The goal should be to qualify within a second of pole, if they can manage that this year they should celebrate, and know they're on the right path.

Exactly... Very happy with the performance so far this year.

It will be interesting what happens after the break since I would expect them to move quickly into 2020 if they get good results between this race and Monza.


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There are still some developments that will appear on the car, especially if they really start consolidating 4th. You'll see them test parts like they did in 2016, which paid off in 2017. The only team they really need to worry about is Renault, and it seems that the two teams fortunes have flipped this year. With Renault having the better race car but poorer qualifier, and McLaren having the marginally slower race car but better qualifier. A testament to the McLaren driver pairing and the teams being so close to each other.

[bauc]

McLaren rising

Optimism becomes realism. Happy days for Mclaren fans.

I hope this is just the beginning

[bauc]

Good result but like mentioned dissapointing gap to the front

What’s wrong with you people? How long have you been watching F1? Just look at the jump the made compared to last year, it’s an amazing job and they don’t even have Alonso and are getting outspend 5:3. Without any budget caps it will be nearly impossible to reach the podium on pure pace.

Agreed

[f1rules]

On their website feed, the fifth driver mentioned more ressources are already allocated to next years car then this

[McL-H]

We are too far off to close the gap to the front. Even for next year. We need to settle in 4th this year. Try to close the gap further to the top 3 next year, leaving competition for 4th far behind.

Then 2021 everything resets and we should strike.

[bauc]

On their website feed, the fifth driver mentioned more resources are already allocated to next years car then this

This is understandable, by September 2/3 of the resources are allocated to next year by default (expect if you are in close battle for championship title)

[Pyrone89]

McLaren is absolutely mudrering the Renault factory team. Good performance of both drivers