2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[shin]

still its trolling

I myself didn't like it either how they (Alonso) threated Honda, but in some way they were bad when they returned to F1... so the complaints were correct and right but the way it was given by Alonso was disrespectfull...
and what you doing is trolling .... so cut
it and leave it be

Sure, no problem. English is not native for me and i can’t express my thoughts the way i want. Did not want to be seen as Mclaren hater.

[Nivedanm]

1. I think it’s natural for drivers of certain caliber to be very demanding. If Honda PU performs today like how it did in 2017, the Verstappens would certainly threaten to walk out of red bull. Never mind the Verstappens, Red Bull can be ruthless to their engine partners when they don’t get what they expect.

2. It’s been discussed here so often. Honda needed a test mule to get their act together and McLaren needed a top quality engine. It helped both of them to leave the mess they created together behind. Honda are winning. Great! McLaren and getting back to top gradually. Great! There is no point in blaming either of them. They did what was right at that time. And it worked for both of them. Period.

3. If any, McLaren have kept respectfully silent while Honda have bitched them a few times. Considering what they put McLaren through in 2015 and 2017, notwithstanding Mclaren’s own issues, it is unfair on Honda’s part to not acknowledge McLaren’s contribution to their F1 programme.

I think it’s better to not discuss about Honda anymore here. That is a thing of past and has nothing to do with this thread.

[mwillems]

I guess the main trait holding back Mclaren today would be their aero efficient philosophy. This track demands downforce and we don't have as much as the front runners due to the nature of our car.

Would be great to see a comparison between ourselves and other teams through our Qualy laps to see where the time was lost.

[Darth-Piekus]

Have in mind that back in 2015 the Honda Engine was indeed a GP2 Quality Engine with lots of reliability problems and very slow. Alonso is also known for a driver that is considered by many as the Number 1 of his time and he doesn't afraid to express himself. While it was harsh it was true at that time. Also the Mclaren Chassis back in 2017 was indeed one of the best. Mclaren did a lot of work to help Honda fix their problems but it was obvious the relationship wasn't working. Let's be honest. If you are a top team with one of the best successes in history and you had a partner that poorly delivered for 3 straight years having also 2 more years to prepare what else would you do?

[charliesmithhd]

Can’t believe Honda talks have started again, this thread is ‘mclaren 2019’ not 2017

[gokarter]

Also the Mclaren Chassis back in 2017 was indeed one of the best.

It's good to believe in the fake hype machine. The reality was total different. 2018 exposed this best chassis myth . exposed this high end drag car and showed how much Mclaren need to work with there aero department. In the end, it worked out for both mclaren and honda.Now mclaren is no more blaming but instead fired those incompetent engineers and hired some new ones to the team and looks forward to rebuilding .

[diffuser]

I guess the main trait holding back Mclaren today would be their aero efficient philosophy. This track demands downforce and we don't have as much as the front runners due to the nature of our car.

Would be great to see a comparison between ourselves and other teams through our Qualy laps to see where the time was lost.

Yeah...I'm not buying that. They don't have more down force cause don't have more DF not because of their philosophy.

[SmallSoldier]

Also the Mclaren Chassis back in 2017 was indeed one of the best.

It's good to believe in the fake hype machine. The reality was total different. 2018 exposed this best chassis myth . exposed this high end drag car and showed how much Mclaren need to work with there aero department. In the end, it worked out for both mclaren and honda.Now mclaren is no more blaming but instead fired those incompetent engineers and hired some new ones to the team and looks forward to rebuilding .

It wasn’t fake hype... The reality is that the Honda engine was pretty poor... Plain and simple... If the team scored any points, it was because of the chassis and not the engine.

The 2018 car wasn’t a reflection of the previous cars/chassis ... The timing for the mistakes they made with it couldn’t have been worse, that’s it.

But as many have mentioned, going back to those years is useless now... The MCL34 is a new concept that the team is developing well and allowing them to compete and that’s the focus this season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[JonoNic]

We can all agree that it was because of the split that both Honda and Mclaren could recover and start doing well. Who knows, we might see a Mclaren Honda soon post Alonso.

I'm hoping for a great start from Mclaren on those softs.

[Hammerfist]

Yeah, that was my feeling too after qually. As good as it is to see them nail best of the rest here, that's still some gap to the front. Sounds like the team are going big next year after playing it relatively safe the past 2 seasons, but it would be the correct call with such a solid and reliable base to work from in this years car.

Couldn't Norris have gone faster? He was faster than anyone else in the midfield by almost 0.5sec and held that advantage until his first run in Q3. But for some reason he aborted his second lap in Q3. He was on pace to beat Gasly I reckon.

[SmallSoldier]

We can all agree that it was because of the split that both Honda and Mclaren could recover and start doing well. Who knows, we might see a Mclaren Honda soon post Alonso.

I'm hoping for a great start from Mclaren on those softs.

Same here... the first couple of laps could be intense! I’m hoping for a quick and clean getaway... Points are the priority tomorrow.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[_cerber1]

Qualification Circle Analysis

https://twitter.com/SmilexTech/status/1 ... 5948774401

[mclaren113]

Qualification Circle Analysis

https://twitter.com/SmilexTech/status/1 ... 5948774401

This graph shows that: Ferrari engine is the best..red bull chassis is the mighty..honda still not there at the top..

[mclaren111]

Is it wrong that I hope McLaren beats Renault so bad rest of the season and next that Renault decides to sell the team and setup a partnership with McLaren as the engine supplier and works team? Renault can turn into McLarens b team call it Prost

I would love that too...

[mwillems]

I guess the main trait holding back Mclaren today would be their aero efficient philosophy. This track demands downforce and we don't have as much as the front runners due to the nature of our car.

Would be great to see a comparison between ourselves and other teams through our Qualy laps to see where the time was lost.

Yeah...I'm not buying that. They don't have more down force cause don't have more DF not because of their philosophy.

They openly admitted that they only pursued a very efficient philosophy, you dont think.this will be part of the issue here? Or are you suggesting that they didnt know how to get more downforce?