This is old news, but anyway https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... 6/3122094/Emag wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 11:16That's why I said "realistically". I personally wouldn't mind if they lost out on 4th if it means that they get a headstart for 2020. I am not sure what goals the team has set for itself this year though. It is true that McLaren improved a lot this season compared to 2018, but they are not yet where they want to be. If sacrificing this 4th place this year means that they will be closer to the front in 2020, i'll take it.proteus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 21:05Another Germany repeat and maybe with even more top contenders out and followers can reduce that gap right away. We also need to take under consideration that Renault engine and Mclaren hydraulics/gearbox are on the fragile side, so retirements and grid penalties are about to hit them.