Silly Season 2020/2021 (starting with silliness in 2019)

[Capharol]

https://f1-gate.com/redbull/f1_51567.html

with google tranlate:

Helmut Marco, Red Bull's motorsport advisor, once again denied rumors that Sebastian Vettel would return to Red Bull Formula 1 in 2020.

[loner]

I never meant to say that I think it means RB is looking for external options- I too do think RB will stick with one of their own.

What I tried to say was that incase RB will look for an external driver- it will rather be Alonso than Hulkenberg.

ok now i understand the hint

if they take on an external driver, its probably for Toro Rosso

yeah perhaps for a Japanese driver for the sake of Honda.

[ringo]

Alonso will not risk being beaten by Max Verstappen. Alonso is done with F1 unless he can get a rookie teammate to guarantee he wins out.
Hulk is out of F1, i don't think the sport needs him anymore. What's the point of having a driver that doesn't feel like he can be world champion anymore?
I used to rate him highly but i think i've seen enough. He doesn't have the hunger or the race craft to get a podium, so enough of Hulk!
Grosjean is at least fun to watch. So i suspect he keeps his drive, or that drive goes to Ericson or Pascal Weirlien.

Redbull have prove now that they don't want to upset Max by giving him Kyvat to contend with. Albon was pretty close to Max in one of the Spa practices, and judgeing from that I suspect Kyvat has more raw speed than Max. He will never team up with him for that reason alone. Max is of course the better driver in terms of racing, and having a winner's brain. But Daniil would be a thorn in his side for sure. Albon looks to keep the seat for 2020 if he behaves himself and don't give any trouble. If he gives too much trouble it will be back to Gasly as second fiddle.

I would say read this article....
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... o/4524859/

and then you find out your statement is nonsense

@Zynerji
of course but then again its all about the money, so to get back to the original message, i am sure for 100% Rossi won't drive F1 in 2020

Really? I was expecting some facts from the article, just to realize you've posted some Horner opinions. The same Horner that told Gasly his season in the car is 100% secure.

[ringo]

Anyhow lets just watch and see the dynamic with Albon. I feel the team likes him a lot already.

As for Hulk i forgot that he could has a good chance of getting Kubica's drive along with the chances of getting the Haas drives and Sauber. Sauber is maybe the best move of his career stocks as he would try to beat Kimi Raikonen, a world champion.
He is competing with: Pascal, Sirotkin, Giovinazi, Ericson for those seats.

[Sniffit]

Anyhow lets just watch and see the dynamic with Albon. I feel the team likes him a lot already.

As for Hulk i forgot that he could has a good chance of getting Kubica's drive along with the chances of getting the Haas drives and Sauber. Sauber is maybe the best move of his career stocks as he would try to beat Kimi Raikonen, a world champion.
He is competing with: Pascal, Sirotkin, Giovinazi, Ericson for those seats.

I doubt Ericsson would return to F1. He seems happy in NA and have stated more then once that he likes the racing over there and especially ovals.

[Jolle]

Anyhow lets just watch and see the dynamic with Albon. I feel the team likes him a lot already.

As for Hulk i forgot that he could has a good chance of getting Kubica's drive along with the chances of getting the Haas drives and Sauber. Sauber is maybe the best move of his career stocks as he would try to beat Kimi Raikonen, a world champion.
He is competing with: Pascal, Sirotkin, Giovinazi, Ericson for those seats.

I remember HULK was dropped by Williams after a quite impressive debut season there, I wonder if there was any bad blood.

The seat next to Raikkonen is for Ferrari to fill, I don't see someone like Hulk being taken in by Ferrari other then doing sim work like Wehrlein or Kvyat last year. I think they have that seat reserved for Schumacher when he's ready for it.

[raymondu999]

Definately no more Merc for Ocon.
Bottas is gonna stay for 2020, and if Ham leaves in 2021, then i think they're gonna want to
keep somebody experienced with the team there.
That would mean Bottas will probably be staying beyond 2021 too. Will we then see Vettel
in the 2021 Mercedes seat to fulfill the German brand's very German desire to have a very
German driver in there, or will they put Ricciardo in instead?

Though i believe Vettel intended/intends to finish his F1 career @ Ferrari, being without the
desired success might see him extend his F1 career.

I think a Vet-Merc deal could be possible; assuming of course Merc stays in F1. There have been some rumors I read recently that Merc may be pulling out after 2020. Also assuming Vettel doesn't make an RBR return for next year; which has also been rumored.

There was a period in which Toto was hinting at such an occurence; I remember a few months back he was constantly saying Hamilton wanted to join Ferrari some day; and then conspicuously saying a German driver would be good in a German team; and that he was close to the Vettel family.

[raymondu999]

Alexander Rossi on Haas radar?

No, again ....
Rossi signed a multi year contract with andretti to drive in Indy.... rossi is going no where

Contracts can be broken, or even waived by the current team to promote a driver. Like when Ferrari offered Fisi Massa's seat in 2009, and FI just let him go...

That requires goodwill from the team though; I have no idea how it is with his team in Indy but FI were very generous in letting Fisi go

[raymondu999]

ok now i understand the hint

if they take on an external driver, its probably for Toro Rosso

yeah perhaps for a Japanese driver for the sake of Honda.

I would also hire a Japanese employee if it meant a supply of good sake

[raymondu999]

https://f1-gate.com/redbull/f1_51567.html

with google tranlate:

Helmut Marco, Red Bull's motorsport advisor, once again denied rumors that Sebastian Vettel would return to Red Bull Formula 1 in 2020.

denied shmenied; remember when Caterham was maintaining all through winter testing that Trulli would still drive for them? Then announced he would be replaced like 2 days later, announcing that the deal had been in place all along

[selvam_e2002]

he also said that will not replace gasly but he did it. I 100% confident Vettel may negotiating with Redbul that is his only option now. I don't believe he will drive for Ferrari in 2020. He either retire or move to RB. These guys well not tell us true story.

Alonso is in Italy with Mclaren. I suspecting some interesting things to happen win Italy F1 race.... wait for the weekend.

[bauc]

he also said that will not replace gasly but he did it. I 100% confident Vettel may negotiating with Redbul that is his only option now. I don't believe he will drive for Ferrari in 2020. He either retire or move to RB. These guys well not tell us true story.

Alonso is in Italy with Mclaren. I suspecting some interesting things to happen win Italy F1 race.... wait for the weekend.

Alonso is Mclaren's ambassador, that is all, no story there I'm afraid.

[zeph]

So to all those saying Vettel is out of Ferrari next year, who do you think would replace him?

I think it's nuts. The guy is still quick and capable. Even if Leclerc is the future, there simply isn't anyone else of Vettel's caliber available. Maybe Ricciardo, but I don't see him going to Ferrari at this point.

Ability aside, from a marketing perspective it is also important for Ferrari to have a world champion driving for the team.

[Jolle]

So to all those saying Vettel is out of Ferrari next year, who do you think would replace him?

I think it's nuts. The guy is still quick and capable. Even if Leclerc is the future, there simply isn't anyone else of Vettel's caliber available. Maybe Ricciardo, but I don't see him going to Ferrari at this point.

Ability aside, from a marketing perspective it is also important for Ferrari to have a world champion driving for the team.

I don't see him moving out of Ferrari for 2020, and with the driversmarket wide open for 2021, anything can happen... so far only Ocon, Leclerc and Russell have a contract for that season.

[Scorpaguy]

Yeah...Vet stays at Big Red. No reason to leave...no place to go. If he was thinking of playing a D Ric type wildcard...this year's Renault fiasco should put those thoughts to rest. I do not think he is that unhappy. Not everyone can drive a Merc and Vet is keen enough to know that.