2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:23
M840TR wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 16:55
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01 Sep 2019, 16:52


Carlo's today ?


Thought that was Hydrolic?
I heard the commentators say it was anti-stall. The car stalled on grid at first and then wouldn't start during pit-stop. Let's wait a bit for more credible sources.
I heard that it stalled and had to be restarted....like a clutch/power problem.
On the video I shared above you can hear Carlos' engineer Tom telling him to do a 'power cycle', which is basically turning the car off and on again. The anti-stall kept kicking in because the PU detected a problem and tried to save itself. It finally gave in when something broke at the end.

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diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:34
Jaisonas wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:30
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01 Sep 2019, 18:23


I heard that it stalled and had to be restarted....like a clutch/power problem.
They told him before he pit that he was gonna powercycle the car. AKA turn it off and on again. Which you usually do when the electrics are ---
Definitely electrical..my bet would be something didn't go back together again when they replaced the mgu-k.
The way the engine was braking the car, i think that the mgu-k got --- and was just another brake for the car

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Macklaren wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 17:49
I don't get everyone saying clean air pace is an advantage for the others. On this track DRS is a huge advantage. Running in clean air is neutral at best. Lando pulling away from the rest without DRS was very impressive
DRS is always used when you're running behind someone. Almost always a slower car. The battle to get past usually slows both cars down. Also wears the tires off more quickly, which in turn slow the overall pace.

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Jaisonas wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:38
diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:34
Jaisonas wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:30

They told him before he pit that he was gonna powercycle the car. AKA turn it off and on again. Which you usually do when the electrics are ---
Definitely electrical..my bet would be something didn't go back together again when they replaced the mgu-k.
The way the engine was braking the car, i think that the mgu-k got --- and was just another brake for the car
It was definitely a mechanical failure and - as you pointed - probably the mgu-k given it was malfunctioning from the outset. Funny that the part was brand new as well.

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Gutted... what a race result this could have been. Cyril Abiteboul must go! And Renault must get their s**t together.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:13
Renault will not be able to overtake Mclaren. In fact noone else will be able to overtake Mclaren. Mclaren is by far in a total package the best 4th car. It would be ignorance not to admit it at this point.
aren't you blind trusting Renault's PUs!!
para bellum.

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At least Monza is in a week, so there's that. But the team don't look confident for the race. I guess it's understandable given the PU situation.

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Just hope the new engine does not blow up in Monza...

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loner wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 19:04
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 18:13
Renault will not be able to overtake Mclaren. In fact noone else will be able to overtake Mclaren. Mclaren is by far in a total package the best 4th car. It would be ignorance not to admit it at this point.
aren't you blind trusting Renault's PUs!!
We got a huge advantage and so far we are the fastest car. It's not like the others won't have DNFs also.

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Who thinks Toyota would be a good engine supplier for McLaren if they decided to come back to F1?

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dp12 wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 20:45
Who thinks Toyota would be a good engine supplier for McLaren if they decided to come back to F1?
Not this again. If they want to do it, they should do it right. That means starting or buying a junior team (not sure who would be available) and then having that junior team develop the engine for 2 or 3 years, only then should McLaren jump ship to a new engine supplier.

To be honest, I think that McLaren doesn't need to do it, Renault is close in engine power and the majority of the gap is in the chassis department. If McLaren started fighting for wins on less power hungry tracks, then we could talk about switching to someone else (like Red Bull did).

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dp12 wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 20:45
Who thinks Toyota would be a good engine supplier for McLaren if they decided to come back to F1?
A Japanese giant with no active F1 involvement since the late 2000’s working with McLaren didn’t work for Honda and I see no reason why it would for Toyota.

Slightly irrelevant as I don’t think Toyota are even vaguely contemplating getting involved in F1 again with their marketing strategy being based around economy rather than performance. Depending on the 2021 regulations it’s probably more likely to see McLaren commit to produce their own engine in my opinion.

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dp12 wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 20:45
Who thinks Toyota would be a good engine supplier for McLaren if they decided to come back to F1?
Ford would be the best shout. They fund and build it and let Mclaren arrange designers etc.
It would not matter where it was built, if they had the money to establish or buy up a 'works'
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Hopefully Eddie Jordan's words come true and Mclaren goes back to Mercedes engines at least by 2021! Renault are just a disgrace, even Honda are ahead of them both in reliability and maybe horsepower by now!
Such a shame for Lando...10pts would have taken him right behind Sainz in the championship and they would have been in gone the WCC!

Btw, was it Renault's fault or was it hydraulics again??
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