2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[digitalrurouni]

Surely they could have split the strategy with Max taking the penalty and Albon going all guns blazing on a track he knows well. Honda logic and engineering levels are stuff of dreams. Albon does not know the Japanese track and will most likely struggle to compete with Vettel and Bottas instaed of challenging Hamilton and Leclrec. Also Hamilton cant perform in this track, the team are massively shooting themselves in the foot with this decision.

If I were you, which I am fortunately not, I would apply very quickly to Honda and / or RBR, because you always know everything better than those involved; highly educated people.

LOL.

[Snorked]

Tanabe's Japanese interview is behind pay wall so no further details other than:

“Digesting Penalty Here to Fight Fully with Spec 4”

For the second half of the season, the power unit's combat power should be ensured, and when considering the power unit's allocation, it is easy to overtake. Both teams agreed to do so because it would be best to do so.

https://members.f1-life.net/race/87898/

[nzjrs]

Surely they could have split the strategy with Max taking the penalty and Albon going all guns blazing on a track he knows well. Honda logic and engineering levels are stuff of dreams. Albon does not know the Japanese track and will most likely struggle to compete with Vettel and Bottas instaed of challenging Hamilton and Leclrec. Also Hamilton cant perform in this track, the team are massively shooting themselves in the foot with this decision.

If I were you, which I am fortunately not, I would apply very quickly to Honda and / or RBR, because you always know everything better than those involved; highly educated people.

remember, he knows better 100% of the time because 50% of the time he suggests one thing, and the other 50% of the time he is sure of the complete opposite!

[etusch]

5 place penalty comes from what ?it must not be complete pu, musn't it? We are so close to sport and it is still like a puzzle

[Wouter]

Surely they could have split the strategy with Max taking the penalty and Albon going all guns blazing on a track he knows well. Honda logic and engineering levels are stuff of dreams. Albon does not know the Japanese track and will most likely struggle to compete with Vettel and Bottas instaed of challenging Hamilton and Leclrec. Also Hamilton cant perform in this track, the team are massively shooting themselves in the foot with this decision.

If I were you, which I am fortunately not, I would apply very quickly to Honda and / or RBR, because you always know everything better than those involved; highly educated people.

remember, he knows better 100% of the time because 50% of the time he suggests one thing, and the other 50% of the time he is sure of the complete opposite!

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[NL_Fer]

They take another spec 4 ICE.

Because the Spa TC is not going to last 8 races. Are the introducing another one this season, or reuse the Spec 3 TC of France?

[Alexf1]

TC of Spa/Monza spec 4 is same as spec3 they said in an interview about spec4. Since spec3 has only done 4 races they could use that one for another 2 races. I wouldnt be surprised if Kvyat turns out to have a new type of TC in Sochi. ICE mileage seems to be the limiting factor for Honda. Which is not surprising since they have really taken a leap in power since mid 2018.

[GhostF1]

TC of Spa/Monza spec 4 is same as spec3 they said in an interview about spec4. Since spec3 has only done 4 races they could use that one for another 2 races. I wouldnt be surprised if Kvyat turns out to have a new type of TC in Sochi. ICE mileage seems to be the limiting factor for Honda. Which is not surprising since they have really taken a leap in power since mid 2018.

I think it's premature to say ICE mileage is their limiting factor, we don't actually know. They are the only manufacturer to not have a failure on track this year and all engines are still available in the pool. Taking this new Spec 4 allows them to use previous PU's in practices for the remaining races and also gives them scope to run the two new Spec 4 units harder for the remaining 6 races. The current Spec 4 introduced in Spa and Monza.. If it was to be stretched to last 8 or 9 races (important to note no other manufacturer has run their engine for this long), then the performance would surely suffer. The coming races will be exciting to see unfold.

[hasika]

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 4-rcg-moto
New fuel will be in Suzuka.It will not only bring some horsepower(maybe not that much),but also reduce engine knocking when you are runnig high power modes.

Regarding the news that they take another spec4 ICE and take penalty in Sochi,I think it just means there will be not Spec5 in the rest of the season.

[Alexf1]

TC of Spa/Monza spec 4 is same as spec3 they said in an interview about spec4. Since spec3 has only done 4 races they could use that one for another 2 races. I wouldnt be surprised if Kvyat turns out to have a new type of TC in Sochi. ICE mileage seems to be the limiting factor for Honda. Which is not surprising since they have really taken a leap in power since mid 2018.

I think it's premature to say ICE mileage is their limiting factor, we don't actually know. They are the only manufacturer to not have a failure on track this year and all engines are still available in the pool. Taking this new Spec 4 allows them to use previous PU's in practices for the remaining races and also gives them scope to run the two new Spec 4 units harder for the remaining 6 races. The current Spec 4 introduced in Spa and Monza.. If it was to be stretched to last 8 or 9 races (important to note no other manufacturer has run their engine for this long), then the performance would surely suffer. The coming races will be exciting to see unfold.

Indeed we dont know for a fact..
But tell me, how are Merc and Ferrari spec 3 engines holding out from Spa/Monza till end of season then? Honda needs 5 ICE. They use just 3 and dont break either at works team.

[sn809]

The ICE maybe new cause they want to send back all 4 used spec 4 ICE to Sakura for in depth analysis.

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Actually I`ll stick with Wazari`s opinion - new ICE with minor changes compared to Spec 4, more suitable for new fuel and final piece of PU puzzle of this year`s development that will show true potential of this PU. I dont think it`s PU bad reliability related......

[hasika]

http://f1sokuho.mopita.com/pc/free/inde ... 16&tt=1170

Tanabe's interview

·To ensure the competitiveness and manage the mileage in the rest of the season,and also consider which track is easy to overtake and which is not,after discussing with the teams,they decided to introduce the new spec4 ICE for both drivers in Sochi.
·The final decision was made after Singapore GP,but they had discussed with the teams for a long time.
·Although they can use old spec on Friday and then change to the lastest spec on Saturday,but they think its better to use Spec4 from Friday so they can have a better calibration for qualifying and race,such as PU settings and energy management.
·So they will run spec4 from Friday in Sochi.
·When asked if its possible that they will introduce spec5 in the rest of the season,he said it depends on how the things is going on but he think they will finish the season with the 2 spec4 engine.

[dxpetrov]

Ok, so this actually makes sense.
Thanks.

[GhostF1]

TC of Spa/Monza spec 4 is same as spec3 they said in an interview about spec4. Since spec3 has only done 4 races they could use that one for another 2 races. I wouldnt be surprised if Kvyat turns out to have a new type of TC in Sochi. ICE mileage seems to be the limiting factor for Honda. Which is not surprising since they have really taken a leap in power since mid 2018.

I think it's premature to say ICE mileage is their limiting factor, we don't actually know. They are the only manufacturer to not have a failure on track this year and all engines are still available in the pool. Taking this new Spec 4 allows them to use previous PU's in practices for the remaining races and also gives them scope to run the two new Spec 4 units harder for the remaining 6 races. The current Spec 4 introduced in Spa and Monza.. If it was to be stretched to last 8 or 9 races (important to note no other manufacturer has run their engine for this long), then the performance would surely suffer. The coming races will be exciting to see unfold.

Indeed we dont know for a fact..
But tell me, how are Merc and Ferrari spec 3 engines holding out from Spa/Monza till end of season then? Honda needs 5 ICE. They use just 3 and dont break either at works team.

We'll see if they can manage it. So far only the works team for both have gone trouble free... We shall see if that is possible.