2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Pany]

I question if RB decided to pit Albon early and in traffic, in order to make him miss the podium with verstapp on the very back....... Or was it just a mistake?

[Bill]

If you can't make the tires last then they pit you,according to Marko Max on the hard was 2 seconds faster than the front runners whether that's hyperbole who knows,At that pace Albon should have won the race regardless of strategy

[etusch]

If you can't make the tires last then they pit you,according to Marko Max on the hard was 2 seconds faster than the front runners whether that's hyperbole who knows,At that pace Albon should have won the race regardless of strategy

Lets say he did a bit worse. He must be at podium. It was not good drive from him

[Wouter]

As for long straights Fia had a meeting with Ferrari behind closed doors.

Do you have a source?

The peaking order in Mexico in power terms was Ferrari, Honda and others.

...... and others? What do you mean?

[Bill]

Sector 1 times in qualifying put Ferrari number 1 Honda 0.2 behind, Mercedes 0.4 behind Renault a little behind Mercedes.this information is available on fia website.

[Bill]

As for fia secret meeting that info was posted here by someone apparently the source is Amus

[Wouter]

As for fia secret meeting that info was posted here by someone apparently the source is Amus

Thanks @Bill.

[Webber2011]

Hope it would be clear now. Max lost his rear bumping out of the curb, touched and damaged Lewis' floor, the impact of which forced Lewis' front to swing and touch Max.

https://i.imgur.com/akUWpZ5.gif

Monologues on discussion platforms are silly ..
Anyway, I'm with Sieper; from what I see Ham takes the risk by cutting deep in the corner leaving barely a cars width. All very understandable as turn 2 is a left. By cutting that deep (while not in front) he takes the genuine risk of sending the RB out on the curb, knowing all too well that curb might affect control of the RB (and even hurt himself). He is willing to take the risks as he wants to end his win-free-streak since Summer and knows Ves is his only real opponent this race, so therefor needs to clear Ves within the 1st 3 corners (and WDC is already safe). That is why he takes that risk.
And while afterwards he and Vet are all about pointing to that guy that always needs extra space for safety, yet they themselves are the culprits replicating years and years of media training.
I used to like them a lot as drivers, but this constant moaning and groaning while driving a superior car starts to annoy quite a bit.

But hey .. ofcourse it's not the truth, it's just an opinion.

And an incredibly one eyed opinion at that.

Just wow........and I thought the Race threads were bad

[Capharol]

Hope it would be clear now. Max lost his rear bumping out of the curb, touched and damaged Lewis' floor, the impact of which forced Lewis' front to swing and touch Max.

https://i.imgur.com/akUWpZ5.gif

Monologues on discussion platforms are silly ..
Anyway, I'm with Sieper; from what I see Ham takes the risk by cutting deep in the corner leaving barely a cars width. All very understandable as turn 2 is a left. By cutting that deep (while not in front) he takes the genuine risk of sending the RB out on the curb, knowing all too well that curb might affect control of the RB (and even hurt himself). He is willing to take the risks as he wants to end his win-free-streak since Summer and knows Ves is his only real opponent this race, so therefor needs to clear Ves within the 1st 3 corners (and WDC is already safe). That is why he takes that risk.
And while afterwards he and Vet are all about pointing to that guy that always needs extra space for safety, yet they themselves are the culprits replicating years and years of media training.
I used to like them a lot as drivers, but this constant moaning and groaning while driving a superior car starts to annoy quite a bit.

But hey .. ofcourse it's not the truth, it's just an opinion.

And an incredibly one eyed opinion at that.

Just wow........and I thought the Race threads were bad

instead of critizing the post, bring your opinion and then we can discuss..... but what you wrote doesn't add anything at all to a discussion .... so give it your best

[diffuser]

Max did not squeeze Lewis to the left and Lewis braked very deep (was behind Max before that) leaving Max not very much place to avoid that kerb). But you cut that off the movie.

Nope check the On board, Max deliberately hits Hamilton. He purposely spun the wheel to the left then back to the right almost a full turn. That's the way he rolls.

I checked .. and I don't agree, as would anyone with any (even basic) racing experience.
But it does not matter, as that idea is apparently cemented and hardened.

Only 1 of 2 things could have happened.
1- He turned into Hamilton purposely.
2- He lost DF when the Ferrari move in front of him. By his own accusation of LeClerc, he should have known better.

Also Max has a looooooong history of contact. He literally makes contact in 30% - 40% of his races. While other drivers like Hamilton or Sainz make contact in less than 10% of them. This is the new normal when competing with Max. A trend that RBR should be concern with. As the probability of Max retiring from a DNF from damage, having to complete a race with a damaged car and/or having to come through the field is high.

[Xray]

Pffff seriously, Jolyon Palmer said it was Lewis’ fault, so did Paul di Resta at the skypad..
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/50222106

[Wouter]

Also Max has a looooooong history of contact. He literally makes contact in 30% - 40% of his races.

Could you perhaps list me all the races since Canada 2018? I am very curious about that.
30% -40%?

[Capharol]

Also Max has a looooooong history of contact. He literally makes contact in 30% - 40% of his races.

Could you perhaps list me all the races since Canada 2018? I am very curious about that.
30% -40%?

don't bother Wouter..... its useless to discuss with ppl that have made up there opinion already about a driver

[GPR-A]

Also Max has a looooooong history of contact. He literally makes contact in 30% - 40% of his races.

Could you perhaps list me all the races since Canada 2018? I am very curious about that.
30% -40%?

Is there a reason why you ask, since Canada 2018? You can't cherry pick a period to prove a clean track record.

Including the first few race of 2018 and at Suzuka, he was miserable. In 2019, coming together with Sainz in Bahrain, the British GP incident with Vettel. He was lucky to get away with Austria when he bumped Leclerc off the track as stewards wanted to be lenient towards on track incidents. If it were to repeat now, Leclerc would rather crash with him than to leave the track. That's how he has evolved now, which he displayed in Britain while fighting with Max. Needless to highlight Spa where he repeated the same mistake from the past, going for a gap which was never going to be there.

The reason why Max is being criticized, is because he has a troublesome past on track. No doubt he had a decent outing in between, but once again, he has gone back to his old ways. Like Lewis mentioned, he is a magnet towards so many incidents. May be he is not entirely at fault in many of those, but the fact that he gets into such places, makes one question his presence of mind in such racy situations.

[Capharol]

It was Lewis who took the risk, and then handily shifted it to Max afterwards in the PC.

But it is ALWAYS the same guys who go in attack mode EVERY time Max' result has been anything less then perfect. The race thread is not enough they have to come and also do the same in the team thread once over. Let me tell you that if next race Max puts Lewis outside of the white lines (instead of Lewis Max like happened in Mexico) it will be an outcry from the same crowd. And in fact, it will likely be a penalty as well.

THAT is the reason Lewis is playing these games. And now by posting this I WILL get attacked again (what bullshit, so stupid, wrong on all accounts for this and that reason etc. etc.) that is the reason I less and less reply to them anymore. I don't enjoy it and I feel I should not even start a defensive fight simply because someone goes on the attack. In fact by defending you validate the standpoint. I was asked to reply so I did but grudgingly.

Have a search on race threads or in team topics how often I go into the attack on Lewis once he has a less then perfect weekend.

agree