2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Marti_EF3]

That yellow flag at the backstraight...

Albon gets better every race, and gathering experience. I think he will be the 2020 2nd driver. I don't understand who criticises him, even comparing with Gasly. Is on his first season, he made a mid season car swap to one completly different, and with a few races he have adapted very well. Gasly had more experience and 2 weeks of testing with the RB15. Imho, Alex is the driver to have at 2020 for RBR. We'll see

[FumeReloaded]

Max Verstappen on Ziggo Sport about performance Ferrari in US: 'That's what happens when you stop cheating'

[Bill]

When Gasly was driving for Redbull the car was 1 second slower than front runners in qualifying except for Hungary by that time his fate was already sealed.He never got a far chance when he made suggestions to car changes he was rebuked according to him he could never drive the car naturally .the driver needs support he was at constant war with he engineers. When Redbull wants the to replace you they deliberately sabotage you like they did with kyvat when they wanted to replace him with Max , you get the feeling the wanted a Thai driver because the owners is what they want.they are a lot of politics in f1Hulk is learning that the hard way

[KelsO]

That yellow flag at the backstraight...

Albon gets better every race, and gathering experience. I think he will be the 2020 2nd driver. I don't understand who criticises him, even comparing with Gasly. Is on his first season, he made a mid season car swap to one completly different, and with a few races he have adapted very well. Gasly had more experience and 2 weeks of testing with the RB15. Imho, Alex is the driver to have at 2020 for RBR. We'll see

No need to overestimate the speed of Albon. He now has a car, which is much faster than the one that Gasly had.

[Marti_EF3]

That yellow flag at the backstraight...

Albon gets better every race, and gathering experience. I think he will be the 2020 2nd driver. I don't understand who criticises him, even comparing with Gasly. Is on his first season, he made a mid season car swap to one completly different, and with a few races he have adapted very well. Gasly had more experience and 2 weeks of testing with the RB15. Imho, Alex is the driver to have at 2020 for RBR. We'll see

No need to overestimate the speed of Albon. He now has a car, which is much faster than the one that Gasly had.

He've been able to adapt to that car only with 5 races and without testing. No need to say more

[Marti_EF3]

When Gasly was driving for Redbull the car was 1 second slower than front runners in qualifying except for Hungary by that time his fate was already sealed.He never got a far chance when he made suggestions to car changes he was rebuked according to him he could never drive the car naturally .the driver needs support he was at constant war with he engineers. When Redbull wants the to replace you they deliberately sabotage you like they did with kyvat when they wanted to replace him with Max , you get the feeling the wanted a Thai driver because the owners is what they want.they are a lot of politics in f1Hulk is learning that the hard way

Lol, you always see conspirations everywhere. In Hungary Gasly 1lap behind. Austria, 1lap behind. Germany, not even able to battle with Albon and the STR. The sabotaging was himself overdriving at the tests, trying to emulate Max rather than adapt himself. He never recovered from that 2 crashes.

[Sieper]

Gasly has nicely recovered. Albon is doing fine, his Seat is safe. If he hadn’t already secured it then today he certainly did.

[Capharol]

When Gasly was driving for Redbull the car was 1 second slower than front runners in qualifying except for Hungary by that time his fate was already sealed.He never got a far chance when he made suggestions to car changes he was rebuked according to him he could never drive the car naturally .the driver needs support he was at constant war with he engineers. When Redbull wants the to replace you they deliberately sabotage you like they did with kyvat when they wanted to replace him with Max , you get the feeling the wanted a Thai driver because the owners is what they want.they are a lot of politics in f1Hulk is learning that the hard way

so much BS ......
nobody sabotaged Gasly, Gasly couldn't stand the pressure of driving for a top team, he proved that already BEFORE the season started by crashing the car twice.
and the driver needs to learn to adapt to the car given, mabe minor tweaks are possible but if your driving style doesn't suits the car you not gonna change the complete car.

Kvyat himself ruined his seat at Red Bull like he did the last two races this year (Mexico & USA) by torpedoing other drivers off the track.... that's HIS mistake.

And albon DESERVES this seat after the races he has shown, in comparison to Gasly he doesn't stay stuck behind a Alfa Romeo and isn't being lapped by his teammate despite being plump last in this race.....

[velizare]

When Gasly was driving for Redbull the car was 1 second slower than front runners in qualifying except for Hungary by that time his fate was already sealed.He never got a far chance when he made suggestions to car changes he was rebuked according to him he could never drive the car naturally .the driver needs support he was at constant war with he engineers. When Redbull wants the to replace you they deliberately sabotage you like they did with kyvat when they wanted to replace him with Max , you get the feeling the wanted a Thai driver because the owners is what they want.they are a lot of politics in f1Hulk is learning that the hard way

Lol, you always see conspirations everywhere. In Hungary Gasly 1lap behind. Austria, 1lap behind. Germany, not even able to battle with Albon and the STR. The sabotaging was himself overdriving at the tests, trying to emulate Max rather than adapt himself. He never recovered from that 2 crashes.

now albon finished ~1m13s behind verstappen. he was not lapped only because this track is much larger than hungaroring or the red bull ring, but this duration means about a lap in hungary or in austria too.
he couldn't challenge any of the mercedes or ferraris this time as well, but he had some fine battles with mclarens. this is the performance why horner sent back gasly to str.

[Bill_Kar]

When Gasly was driving for Redbull the car was 1 second slower than front runners in qualifying except for Hungary by that time his fate was already sealed.He never got a far chance when he made suggestions to car changes he was rebuked according to him he could never drive the car naturally .the driver needs support he was at constant war with he engineers. When Redbull wants the to replace you they deliberately sabotage you like they did with kyvat when they wanted to replace him with Max , you get the feeling the wanted a Thai driver because the owners is what they want.they are a lot of politics in f1Hulk is learning that the hard way

Lol, you always see conspirations everywhere. In Hungary Gasly 1lap behind. Austria, 1lap behind. Germany, not even able to battle with Albon and the STR. The sabotaging was himself overdriving at the tests, trying to emulate Max rather than adapt himself. He never recovered from that 2 crashes.

now albon finished ~1m13s behind verstappen. he was not lapped only because this track is much larger than hungaroring or the red bull ring, but this duration means about a lap in hungary or in austria too.
he couldn't challenge any of the mercedes or ferraris this time as well, but he had some fine battles with mclarens. this is the performance why horner sent back gasly to str.

Umm.. Did you watch the race? Did you see that part where Albon was forced to pit in lap 1?

I still don't know why I bother to answer. Just a troll

[GhostF1]

Lol, you always see conspirations everywhere. In Hungary Gasly 1lap behind. Austria, 1lap behind. Germany, not even able to battle with Albon and the STR. The sabotaging was himself overdriving at the tests, trying to emulate Max rather than adapt himself. He never recovered from that 2 crashes.

now albon finished ~1m13s behind verstappen. he was not lapped only because this track is much larger than hungaroring or the red bull ring, but this duration means about a lap in hungary or in austria too.
he couldn't challenge any of the mercedes or ferraris this time as well, but he had some fine battles with mclarens. this is the performance why horner sent back gasly to str.

Umm.. Did you watch the race? Did you see that part where Albon was forced to pit in lap 1?

I still don't know why I bother to answer. Just a troll

Exactly.. I'm pretty sure people don't watch the race but read the results at the end and talk nonsense. Alex did a fine job recovering back to 5th even with 3 pitstops. His race pace was not far off Max's either. He had to make loads of overtakes, several times over due to the pits and he did so cleanly. He's getting faster with every GP

[Sieper]

Guys, please stop the bashing. Except for the conspiracy also the points brought up in Pierre’s defence seem valid. I think Albon is doing fine, and Yes, better then Gasly but the situation has changed that is a Fair point too. Redbull has decided to give them both a chance this year. They will have the data and will decide, I expect it will be Albon. He is indeed improving and was/is already good.

[KelsO]

so much BS ......
nobody sabotaged Gasly, Gasly couldn't stand the pressure of driving for a top team, he proved that already BEFORE the season started by crashing the car twice.
and the driver needs to learn to adapt to the car given, mabe minor tweaks are possible but if your driving style doesn't suits the car you not gonna change the complete car.

Kvyat himself ruined his seat at Red Bull like he did the last two races this year (Mexico & USA) by torpedoing other drivers off the track.... that's HIS mistake.

And albon DESERVES this seat after the races he has shown, in comparison to Gasly he doesn't stay stuck behind a Alfa Romeo and isn't being lapped by his teammate despite being plump last in this race.....

Yes, he(Kvyat) is to blame for the last two accidents, but only because he had nothing to lose. It would be worse if he did not dare to overtake when there is nothing to lose. Especially in the last race (Mexico) it brought TP 2 points.
As for the 2016th. Do you really believe that Riccardo could be faster than a Kvyat by 1.5 seconds in qualifying, and Kvyat on Red Bull was slower than pilots of teams of the middle group? Well then Santa Claus exists.

Gasly ... I don’t know what happened with Gasly, but it was strange how Marco began to criticize him without adding confidence to him. I think he is to blame(Gasly), but Red Bull (Marco) only exacerbated his problems. They lost Riccardo last year because of this, otherwise this problem would have simply not existed, it is obvious.

[Hammerfist]

There is something not right going on at Redbull. I am not sure that the two cars are completely equal. We've seen how Gasly has been rejuvenated ever since he moved back to TR. It doesn't make any sense, as if he was truly as bad as he was at Redbull, Kvyat should be beating him, but that is surely not happening. Also, Albon, although he is doing much better than Gasly, primarily because he is a superior overtaker, is so far away from Max on pure pace; although Max made a mistake on his first lap in Q3, he is still half a second up on Albon. It doesn't make any sense if you really think about it. I know that Redbull wants to build the team around Max, but if they don't give a damn about the second driver and do not help him succeed because Max has to be number one, it will not help them catch Mercedes and Ferrari. This also can explain why Ricciardo decided to leave Redbull. It just doesn't seem to be an equal footing driver partnership at Redbull.

[Bill]

By sabotage I mean not getting the attention and love to develop the car . In f1 you develope a car by taking into account input from both drivers when told just take setup from the other driver and drive that's not good for motivation and psychology . When Alonso a two time world champion didn't get the attention he wanted at mclaren he left .(not getting the right tire pressures in china deliberate or not is an example of sabotage because you didn't get the right setup or not enough attention was paid to you.