2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[mclaren111]

Next year will be an important milestone for McLaren. It will be the first car they develop from the ground up with the team they recently assembled in the last 2 years.

James Key, and Andreas Seidl have been in charge through the entire development phase of the 2020 McLaren. So this car will be a preview of what to expect from McLaren in the coming years.

Except that they have to prepare 2021 with less budget than top teams.
So they must "sacrifize" a bit 2020, and prepare new rules + engine change for 2021

I think they must avoid the 2013 mistake. So keep the current car and improve it, fix its issues should be enough to be P4 next year again and build the future

If McLaren is throwing money at a new wind tunnel, and Brown is bringing in sponsors and investment, I doubt McLaren will be hurting financially.

The wind tunnel is a Capital / Asset Expenditure and should not effect the team's budget...

[izzy]

The wind tunnel is a Capital / Asset Expenditure and should not effect the team's budget...

i think a wind tunnel is a 'car performance' item not a 'property' item, so it'd fall within the limited budget. That's why Ferrari said they're renewing theirs before the cap kicks in

[Maplesoup]

Last month Andreas Seidl told that they are going for a concept change for next season. Considering they've done pretty decent steps with their upgrades this season, it's a bit surprising. They know that such changes are risky to some extent, but they're in full attacking mode to reach the top 3.

Their car concept has flaws and they know that. It's cheaper to run with a concept that they know will solve the problems rather than fight the existing chassis to conform. Makes perfect sense.

Ok then, I'm not so informed about the McLaren. What are the flaws of it's concept? From what I've seen it's a fast car in high speed corners. I assume they're going to add more downforce (no brainer) and try to increase it's slow speed performance/mechanical grip?

Amazingly enough they don't tell the public in detail. However Lando has mentioned how the car is rather tricky to drive. So its likely there is a balance issue with the car when pushing hard. We'll most likely never know what the issue actually is.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/norr ... s/4597191/

[SmallSoldier]

The wind tunnel is a Capital / Asset Expenditure and should not effect the team's budget...

i think a wind tunnel is a 'car performance' item not a 'property' item, so it'd fall within the limited budget. That's why Ferrari said they're renewing theirs before the cap kicks in

Not really, the use of the wind tunnel is limited already and they have been renting one... Building a new one isn’t part of the cost of the racing team, it’s actually a Mclaren Technologies investment.


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[izzy]

Not really, the use of the wind tunnel is limited already and they have been renting one... Building a new one isn’t part of the cost of the racing team, it’s actually a Mclaren Technologies investment.

Yes really. it's because wind tunnel time is limited that they have to have the most sophisticated one possible, to get as much and best data in the smallest time. That means building a better one than they can rent from Toyota, it's the same reason Racing Point have started using Mercedes'

if the cost cap doesn't allow for something as obvious as letting MAT pay for it then they've all wasted their time! Red Bull have Red Bull Technologies etc etc. But it is too obvious surely

[Big Tea]

The wind tunnel is a Capital / Asset Expenditure and should not effect the team's budget...

i think a wind tunnel is a 'car performance' item not a 'property' item, so it'd fall within the limited budget. That's why Ferrari said they're renewing theirs before the cap kicks in

Not really, the use of the wind tunnel is limited already and they have been renting one... Building a new one isn’t part of the cost of the racing team, it’s actually a Mclaren Technologies investment.


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So they can rent it to team mclaren at what ever cost they like, and also have some unpaid students playing with some idea one of them thought they would play with before they started their work experience at Mclaren?

[diffuser]

The wind tunnel is a Capital / Asset Expenditure and should not effect the team's budget...

i think a wind tunnel is a 'car performance' item not a 'property' item, so it'd fall within the limited budget. That's why Ferrari said they're renewing theirs before the cap kicks in

Agreed, it why also RP is building 1 now.

[godlameroso]

The point is, if they have money to build a brand new wind tunnel, then they're not really worried about funding or resources. They should be able to develop strongly in 2020 along with their plans for 2021. 2020 car has been in development for quite some time, as McLaren shifted focus likely after the summer break only tweaking the current car.

Likely the 2020 car will be quite competitive, most teams won't want to over commit resources when 2021 is around the corner. There is some interesting long term strategy at play. McLaren has done a good job with the hand it was dealt, but would it be wise to double down on 2020?

Likely they're in a similar position from 2018 to 2019, in that they've had plenty of time to develop 2020. If overcomitting to 2020 pays off and you can get close to a podium on merit, do you take it, or focus on the bigger picture and try to make inroads with new regulations?

[diffuser]

Their car concept has flaws and they know that. It's cheaper to run with a concept that they know will solve the problems rather than fight the existing chassis to conform. Makes perfect sense.

Ok then, I'm not so informed about the McLaren. What are the flaws of it's concept? From what I've seen it's a fast car in high speed corners. I assume they're going to add more downforce (no brainer) and try to increase it's slow speed performance/mechanical grip?

Amazingly enough they don't tell the public in detail. However Lando has mentioned how the car is rather tricky to drive. So its likely there is a balance issue with the car when pushing hard. We'll most likely never know what the issue actually is.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/norr ... s/4597191/

He's just saying that it pretty close in the midfield. In race pace when you generally start the race running 10 seconds a lap slower than in quali because of xtra fuel and trying to save tires to minimize the number of pit stops. Everyone has the ability to go faster than they're actually going. Add to that the difficult caused by dirty when trailing....They just Don't have that RBR type pace to get around other midfield teams that easily.

[mwillems]

The point is, if they have money to build a brand new wind tunnel, then they're not really worried about funding or resources. They should be able to develop strongly in 2020 along with their plans for 2021. 2020 car has been in development for quite some time, as McLaren shifted focus likely after the summer break only tweaking the current car.

Likely the 2020 car will be quite competitive, most teams won't want to over commit resources when 2021 is around the corner. There is some interesting long term strategy at play. McLaren has done a good job with the hand it was dealt, but would it be wise to double down on 2020?

Likely they're in a similar position from 2018 to 2019, in that they've had plenty of time to develop 2020. If overcomitting to 2020 pays off and you can get close to a podium on merit, do you take it, or focus on the bigger picture and try to make inroads with new regulations?

Getting those podiums and chasing the top teams is a great goal, but if we fall behind in 2021 as a result of not focusing on the new regs, then we risk playing catchup for more than just one season. This possibility of relegating ourselves to nothing more than a midfield battle for several more years doesn't excite me, I'd rather sacrifice one year of podiums and build for at top 3 future in the new season.

[Lucky]

https://twitter.com/SportByFort/status/ ... 50919?s=19

[_cerber1]

Are we waiting for the announcement that Amazon will sponsor McLaren? They are not yet in the list of partners and sponsors, but the advertisement is on Twitter.

[f1rules]

that would be
i checked by adding amazon, but no hidden amazon partner page yet
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/partners/logitech/
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/partners/amazon/

[bauc]

The speculation about Amazon is going on for too long.....so where there is smoke there is fire?

[Ground Effect]

FxPro extension though,

https://t.co/hw4mfCcm8B?amp=1