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Last weekend on Sky Sports F1 after the pole from Max:Team Principal Christian Horner says that the new relationship [with Honda] has outweighed expectations.
Speaking in Brazil before Max Verstappen took Red Bull’s third Grand Prix win of the season, Horner was asked if the relationship with Honda was going “better than expected.”
He replied: “I think in many respects, yes. There were a lot of questions as to why we had made the move to Honda.
“I think very quickly, at the first Grand Prix, we achieved a podium. We’ve scored more points than we had at this time last year. All around, reliability has been strong, performance has been getting better and better.
“I think on the chassis side we were affected more than we thought going into the year by the front wing regulation change and Honda have certainly exceeded our expectations in all areas. So, it has been a really very positive start to this partnership."
Horner said that the Honda power unit’s evolution this year was “great”, and it bodes very well for the 2020 season, given that regulations stay the same next year.
“The progress that has been made with the introduction of each engine has been great to see. Reliability has been strong,” he said.
"We have to give Honda all the credits today, they did a great job. This circuit is at a great height and is tough for the engines anyway. So to officially take the second pole of the hybrid era here is very good for Honda. Especially when you consider where they were a few years ago. Their commitment is really impressive."
Thank you for your explanation @Capharol.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/toro ... t/4602813/Honda's "big step forward" main factor in Toro Rosso gains.
Nov 26, 2019, 5:01 PM
Toro Rosso team boss Franz Tost has credited Honda with the uplift in form that his team has enjoyed in recent races.
The Faenza-based outfit has closed to within eight points of Renault in the fight for fifth place in the constructors’ championship following Pierre Gasly’s shock runner-up finish in the Brazilian Grand Prix.
And with the team close to delivering what could be its best season in F1, Tost has no doubt that its progress owes more to what Honda has achieved this year than anything else.
“The Red Bull partnership helped us at the beginning of the season with the suspension, because we took over the suspension and everything from them,” said Tost. “But during the season, there's not much [we can do] with the synergy because of the regulations.
“It was the aero updates which helped us, and Honda made a big step forward. It was primarily Honda. With the spec four engine and with fuel, which they brought at Suzuka. This helped us to improve the performance.”
said in a interview with AMuSHow brave was it for a winning team like Red Bull to team up with the unknown greats Honda?
Horner: It was a brave decision, but also a right one. We have gained more points than in the last two years, although the second car has dropped slightly compared to earlier. We won races, achieved pole positions and fastest race laps. It was clear that 2019 would be a transitional year. After twelve years with an engine partner, everything had to be brought in first with a new manufacturer. Looking back, I can only say that we are on a very good way. The performance gets better, the reliability is excellent, the communication works. I sense that something is building up to be at the forefront in 2020.
Honda speaks a different language, Japan is far away, and you were dealing with a different culture. Was it difficult to find each other?
Horner: Honda's Europe store is just around the corner from our factory in Milton Keynes. I would not speak of another culture. We are more similar than we thought. Honda has the same passion, the same determination to succeed as us. All you have to do is look at the motor sports department in Sakura, then they know what I'm talking about. Formula 1 is part of their DNA. Headquartered in Tokyo, the car Richie Ginther won the first Grand Prix for Honda is in the lobby. They are proud of their history with Williams-Honda and later with Ayrton Senna and McLaren. Honda is the perfect partner for us.
Yes i agree! This is why I said
but i have a great proverb too: "if you can't win an argument, start talking about something else"Honda have been great this year. And Red Bull and Max have been making a big effort to say so
1. i am me and have no 2nd account, can't help we think alike but that sometimes happens in a Forum that 2 people has the same opinion
Oh I apologise, and thank you
I think if they win wdc or fight for win it next year and coming rules are good for them they may decide to stay. But these are not only things they consider I think.Jambier wrote: ↑27 Nov 2019, 12:16This is a quite good news.
Half goof I'd say
Honda doesn't want to make the same mistake than 2008
But it also means " we will be there in 2021 to see what happen", meaning 2021 must be a winning year to justify the cost of this program
Big pressure on RB now, and also on Honda to win.
In addition, Max will also stay at RB... if they win in 2021
Can't wait for 2021 season
Yes surely they've learned from last time, that it doesn't make sense to come into F1 for a few years. It takes a few years to become competitive, so that is the worst of all worlds! Now they've finally caught up, after all that pain and Fernando's famous putdowns, they have to be here to stay, that's the only way it makes sense, to make your brand synonymous with F1 brands and build that association, which takes a lot of time
November 27, 2020 2:14 pm
With the decision by Honda to still supply engines to Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso (by then Alpha Tauri) in 2021, Helmut Marko can sigh a sigh of relief. The near future of the energy drink brand is therefore guaranteed in racing, although rumors have recently been circulating that point in a different direction. For example, Red Bull would be willing to step out of Formula 1 and go through life as a factory team, if Honda would like that.
All speculation, because Honda let GPUpdate.net know that it has no intention of returning to Formula 1 with its own factory team.
"At the moment we are only thinking of being active as an engine supplier in Formula 1," Yamamoto announces. "To be able to participate properly as a constructor, you need a huge amount of knowledge and money - and of those two elements, in particular, knowledge."