Red Bull RB16

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DChemTech wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:28
Juzh wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 13:31
godlameroso wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 13:14


Probably getting used to the new suspension setup. There should be very little centering force due to the negative caster and rear wheel steering effect. Perhaps it's a very fast car in the low and medium corners but tricky to be fast in the really high speed stuff.
There was another onboard few minutes ago and again the car was completely sideways, and when it wasn't it was understeering off the track or just barely staying on it.
He just spun apparently, rear breaking out.
He touched the gravel while braking.

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Is it a little monkey? Or a happy sloth?
Either way it cant be a good luck charm; monkeys find the back and sloths are slow moving creatures.
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Multi-link front suspension!
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Edit: looks like motorsport.com was wrong, it is the steering arm.
Interesting location though.
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It's the steering arm.

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PhillipM wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 00:50
It's the steering arm.
Well spotted.
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Last year they had two mounting points for the upper wishbone, I wonder why they went back to a more conventional setup. Not that their suspension is less complex than last year.
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godlameroso wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 02:26
Last year they had two mounting points for the upper wishbone, I wonder why they went back to a more conventional setup. Not that their suspension is less complex than last year.
In 2020 Pre-Season Testing: Day 1 Tech Talk, Mark thinks it is because RBR probably wanted to elongate the car and in order to save some weight they ditched the multilink...

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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 00:21
Multi-link front suspension!
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Edit: looks like motorsport.com was wrong, it is the steering arm.
Interesting location though.
Interestingly, I think this will prevent them from implementing the Merc DAS system, or at least, it would work in reverse.

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Is changing toe between straights and curves even worth it? It doesn't look like the toe change is significant, so what could it accomplish? Slightly more stability and more tire wear and heat on straights?
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godlameroso wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:59
Is changing toe between straights and curves even worth it? It doesn't look like the toe change is significant, so what could it accomplish? Slightly more stability and more tire wear and heat on straights?
On courses with long straights, the teams may run less toe than they'd prefer due to the uneven heating/wear on the straights. This could then allow Mercedes more toe and better slow speed performance on such tracks.

I still think they are doing it for an aero benefit on the straights based on their offset pushrod location.
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dren wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 16:05
godlameroso wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:59
Is changing toe between straights and curves even worth it? It doesn't look like the toe change is significant, so what could it accomplish? Slightly more stability and more tire wear and heat on straights?
On courses with long straights, the teams may run less toe than they'd prefer due to the uneven heating/wear on the straights. This could then allow Mercedes more toe and better slow speed performance on such tracks.

I still think they are doing it for an aero benefit on the straights based on their offset pushrod location.
me too, and that would make it an moveable aero device and outlawed. But apparently it is allowed.

But if adjustable toe-in is allowed and this can be achieved by moving the steerer tube, why not make a slideable steerer tube shaft and have a little motor do it (on the touch of a button) and nobody would be the wiser, plus you would be able to do it very quickly on the very last minute before the corner begins (and when it stops on corner exit). But OK, maybe an analog system with "in between" toe-in angles is even nicer.

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Because it's probably sliding the whole rack.