Happened in '14 (not shocking with new regs) and '16 already, although this component of the discussion is probably best suited for the team thread.
Does the engine not have a bunch of new parts? On stream the commentators mentioned new turbos among other things. THat'd explain thingsPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:41The engine. The engine has something new I sense. I cant explain why a mature engine design would have less reliabilitythan last year so the engine must have some bee really new features in it this year i suspectnemanja wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 19:48What do You mean? Hydraulic front suspension...?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 17:15Seems Ferrari are still taking some design risks. They haven't mastered their new techniques required for these innovations
Maybe that's why they've built two dragster in a row, they forgot how to put downforce on a car.zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
I don't know if anyone raised this question, but. Why, back in 2018, Ferrari brought updates after the US Grand Prix, but could not force the floor and aero to work correctly, as a result, after 3 GP it was decided to roll back to the US car version? Why didn’t their engineers see that the new ones would not work correctly earlier? Where is the reason for the discrepancy between the data in the simulator and in reality on the track?zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
will be interessting to see how much far away they are, if its so much how it sounds maybe the old car is still faster?zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
That's a real problem if they didn't make any progress... it means they are behind racing point too at this pointKiLLu12258 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 12:01will be interessting to see how much far away they are, if its so much how it sounds maybe the old car is still faster?zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
The old car is not faster...KiLLu12258 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 12:01will be interessting to see how much far away they are, if its so much how it sounds maybe the old car is still faster?zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
The answer is car setup.jumpingfish wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 11:52I don't know if anyone raised this question, but. Why, back in 2018, Ferrari brought updates after the US Grand Prix, but could not force the floor and aero to work correctly, as a result, after 3 GP it was decided to roll back to the US car version? Why didn’t their engineers see that the new ones would not work correctly earlier? Where is the reason for the discrepancy between the data in the simulator and in reality on the track?zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175
I can’t say that Ferrari has everything in errors and the correlation is low, because they win at some stages of the championship against strong competitors (Merc/RB), but these things are strange.
Why Ferrari did not see that for the new tires 2019 need more pressure, but Mercedes saw? Could it be that some of the tools for creating a car are less perfect, not so modern, high-quality? All this recalls the story of Newey in his book when he was fooled by an outdated windtunnel in Southampton and didn't see a changes in airflow, so the car did not work on the track.
The reason this makes me a little skeptical is Haas uses Ferrari wind tunnel for their development and they don't seem to have correlation issues they had last year.zibby43 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:34From the Leo Turrini blog:
"The first aerodynamic package of the SF1000 does not work. So far the problems of 2019 have not been solved. The car suffers from understeer and the performance on the dry lap are still far away from the Mercedes (and Red Bull) levels."
Turrini, a Ferrari insider, had reported a few weeks ago that the SF1000 had not achieved the expected results in the wind tunnel.
https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... tto-5.6175