2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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JonoNic wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 12:59
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SiLo wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 12:18
I think Merc will be fastest and a lot of people here are going to be disappointed.
And if another option is true other lots of people going to be disappointed. Disappointing is constant here
For now I'm just hoping for a race.
Unless there's a major outbreak in Melbourne itself in next few days, chances of race being cancelled at this stage are slim imo. This one will go forward, and probably Bahrain as well, for anything else it's way too early to tell.

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Autosport has an article that says that 'the Ferrari and Alpha Tauri cars and equipment are on their way from the airport' (in Melbourne) and that 'the personnel are on the planes'....

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Wouter wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 11:43
GPR-A wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 11:18
Discussion of a car's feature, belongs in a race thread?
Why not when Bottas wants to drive something new: DAS in Australia for the first time?

You have nothing against talking about taking toilet paper to Australia here, and comparing the wheel suspensions between the teams?
Bottas driving with DAS in Australia or not, that is not the post that I commented on. I specifically commented when the discussion was more about how it affects a driver, whether the driver can overtake and stuff like that. Read my post again.

I have nothing against talking about taking toilet paper to Australia, as you should enlighten me as to where the toilet paper discussion should go. I have no clue, but I very well know the car feature discussion belongs to car thread. Just FYI. I am not a mod to go over every other irrelevant topic in a thread and sound off alarm. I comment on where I feel I want as long as it relevant to that thread. Any problem?

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P1 & P2 might be affected by rain, this can make qualification more unpredictable
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Mercedes will be fastest in Melbourne, is my guess. RBR is a question mark because for the first time in many years they look much better prepared and seem to have a fast car from the beginning. So their performance relative to Mercedes will be an interesting thing to look at.
As for Ferrari, I'll be curiously waiting for their raw pace. No idea where they are, either.

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70% of the lap in Melbourne is under full throttle,by any measure it is a power circuit. I think people are overrating Mercedes and under estimating the competition especially Honda who have made gains on pu with reliability to match .the same cannot be said about Mercedes.

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Mercedes looked just superb around Barcelona and no doubt with the fuel taken out they will be mighty in Melbourne. Red Bull looked so good in direction change that they will no doubt be better prepared this season.

For me the really interesting bit is whether we see any in roads from the midfield of Renault and McLaren. Can they close the gap time wise to the front?

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Bill wrote:70% of the lap in Melbourne is under full throttle,by any measure it is a power circuit. I think people are overrating Mercedes and under estimating the competition especially Honda who have made gains on pu with reliability to match .the same cannot be said about Mercedes.
I wish the same for Honda but how you see this leap in reliability from them? From the test in Barcelona?

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bluechris wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 22:37
Bill wrote:70% of the lap in Melbourne is under full throttle,by any measure it is a power circuit. I think people are overrating Mercedes and under estimating the competition especially Honda who have made gains on pu with reliability to match .the same cannot be said about Mercedes.
I wish the same for Honda but how you see this leap in reliability from them? From the test in Barcelona?
Do you think that we can not see reliability at tests?
So what is reason of those 6 days they are not showing us anything? Isn't there any meaning of Alpha tauri's one engine finish?

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etusch wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 23:05
Do you think that we can not see reliability at tests?
So what is reason of those 6 days they are not showing us anything? Isn't there any meaning of Alpha tauri's one engine finish?
Not directly no, because we don't know how over or under cooled the PU's might have been in testing.
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godlameroso wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 03:25

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Frankly, with regards to bumps and kerbs, I think the RB16 is the class of the field, so even with Mercedes' having a very slow corner advantage, I think it balances out. It may swing the balance of power, luckily now Mercedes no longer have a big downforce advantage in the high-speed stuff like they had last year. So although RB has lost a bit of their low-speed corner advantage, they gained in other areas. They'll be very close, closer than they were last year, and the Honda engine is progressing nicely as well.
At the official site, there is an article in which they analysed cornering data from winter tests: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... OiAIG.html

Yeah, I know that those data can`t be pretty accurate for not knowing the fuel levels, PU modes and so on, but apparently it seems (at least to me) that Merc has gained a lot in the low and middle-speed corners vs Red Bull
and over the entire lap, they seem to have gained some 5 tenths:

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Even if the data analysis is not so accurate regarding the real figures we could better assume the car behaviour both from on-track observers and many video footage at the tests.

Taking into account the above cornering data, I wanna know how many low, medium and high-speed corners do we have here in Melbourne in order to have some a more or less superficial conclusion regarding the race pace between the teams ...
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atanatizante wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 00:43
Yeah, I know that those data can`t be pretty accurate for not knowing the fuel levels, PU modes and so on, but apparently it seems (at least to me) that Merc has gained a lot in the low and middle-speed corners vs Red Bull
and over the entire lap, they seem to have gained some 5 tenths:

https://postimages.org/

Even if the data analysis is not so accurate regarding the real figures we could better assume the car behaviour both from on-track observers and many video footage at the tests.

Taking into account the above cornering data, I wanna know how many low, medium and high-speed corners do we have here in Melbourne in order to have some a more or less superficial conclusion regarding the race pace between the teams ...
Is the Ferrari being best at low speed just because of the one time Seb cut the chicane? And according to that Mercedes have nearly the least power and downforce, so i wouldn't pay any attention to it at all, it is junk. Hang on for Q3 and embrace the suspense :o :)

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Mercedes will dominate on tracks with many low to medium speed corners. On other tracks RB might have a chance, but not enough for the championship. Melbourne has plenty of medium speed corners, so expect some strong ass Mercedes.
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izzy wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 01:22
atanatizante wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 00:43
Yeah, I know that those data can`t be pretty accurate for not knowing the fuel levels, PU modes and so on, but apparently it seems (at least to me) that Merc has gained a lot in the low and middle-speed corners vs Red Bull
and over the entire lap, they seem to have gained some 5 tenths:

https://postimages.org/

Even if the data analysis is not so accurate regarding the real figures we could better assume the car behaviour both from on-track observers and many video footage at the tests.

Taking into account the above cornering data, I wanna know how many low, medium and high-speed corners do we have here in Melbourne in order to have some a more or less superficial conclusion regarding the race pace between the teams ...
Is the Ferrari being best at low speed just because of the one time Seb cut the chicane? And according to that Mercedes have nearly the least power and downforce, so i wouldn't pay any attention to it at all, it is junk. Hang on for Q3 and embrace the suspense :o :)
I don't know how they came to that conclusion, but surely not because of some chicane cutting. In their first week's analysis they claimed Ferrari to be fastest in slow speed sections as well. It's not based on sector times, though. Otherwise Alfa Romero should have been up there as Kimi had the fastest S3 time by cutting the chicane.