Haas VF-20

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This is the Haas VF-20 offical car thread.

Please discuss ONLY technical items of this car, and refrain from speculation.

General discussion about the team, its drivers and performance can be posted in the team thread.

Livery Talk also belongs in the Team Thread. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=28680
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3 boomerangs and a lot of vortex generators on the Haas... Taking the complexity cup on the first day?

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SF90 clone?

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Those little actuators seem to be LVDTs... :idea:

I can see the wires connected. They are measureming suspension movements here.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2020, 21:54
Those little actuators seem to be LVDTs... :idea:

I can see the wires connected. They are measureming suspension movements here.
That has been done for many years in this sort of way.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2020, 21:54
Those little actuators seem to be LVDTs... :idea:

I can see the wires connected. They are measureming suspension movements here.
What are those little black boxes at the end of the pushrods secured with two screws? One cable goes to the end of the pushrod, but seems there are no other connection, just some kind of antenna-like protrusion at the other end...looks like some kind of wireless transponder but what should it report/measure?

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kalinka wrote: ↑
18 May 2020, 08:06
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2020, 21:54
Those little actuators seem to be LVDTs... :idea:

I can see the wires connected. They are measureming suspension movements here.
What are those little black boxes at the end of the pushrods secured with two screws? One cable goes to the end of the pushrod, but seems there are no other connection, just some kind of antenna-like protrusion at the other end...looks like some kind of wireless transponder but what should it report/measure?
Strain gauge to measure force on the pushrod (and thus downforce / wheel loads), perhaps?
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Strain gauge to measure force on the pushrod (and thus downforce / wheel loads), perhaps?
Yeah, makes sense. On the other picture from different angle it can be actually seen that it's not wireless, the cable on the other end goes into a hole. The usual F1 "tricks your eyes" effect :D

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Just_a_fan wrote: ↑
18 May 2020, 09:49
kalinka wrote: ↑
18 May 2020, 08:06
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
21 Apr 2020, 21:54
Those little actuators seem to be LVDTs... :idea:

I can see the wires connected. They are measureming suspension movements here.
What are those little black boxes at the end of the pushrods secured with two screws? One cable goes to the end of the pushrod, but seems there are no other connection, just some kind of antenna-like protrusion at the other end...looks like some kind of wireless transponder but what should it report/measure?
Strain gauge to measure force on the pushrod (and thus downforce / wheel loads), perhaps?
interesting that, pre-suspended(suspension) force sensor data collection to be calibrated with post-suspended(suspension) data collection, must be in there somewhere..even more interesting if they had laser sensors below the suspension uprights targeted at road surface to measure tyre compression and rebound depth and calibrate frequencies between all that to get an improved set up...maybe tyre pressure sensor is a simpler solution, probably less accurate