[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

[godlameroso]

That would depend on in season running which we haven't had yet. Some hardware changes can only be validated on track, so this has put a damper on development.

Some improvements were made after testing data in time for Melbourne. But there is no on track data yet from the updates, nor is it possible to test certain parts. Parts which would guide development of the next spec.

[Alexf1]

That would depend on in season running which we haven't had yet. Some hardware changes can only be validated on track, so this has put a damper on development.

Some improvements were made after testing data in time for Melbourne. But there is no on track data yet from the updates, nor is it possible to test certain parts. Parts which would guide development of the next spec.

Thanks. That clarifies a lot. Hope they can get as much development done as possible before next season starts. Have a feeling that the current situation will not only lead to a car development freeze for next year but also an engine freeze to keep the current 4 engine makers stay in F1.

[GhostF1]

That would depend on in season running which we haven't had yet. Some hardware changes can only be validated on track, so this has put a damper on development.

Some improvements were made after testing data in time for Melbourne. But there is no on track data yet from the updates, nor is it possible to test certain parts. Parts which would guide development of the next spec.

Thanks. That clarifies a lot. Hope they can get as much development done as possible before next season starts. Have a feeling that the current situation will not only lead to a car development freeze for next year but also an engine freeze to keep the current 4 engine makers stay in F1.

If Honda become the major sponsor and the team actually become Honda Redbull Racing, I could see this keeping them in the sport for a few more years. The exposure will be increased dramatically, and if the engine freeze/development reduction occurs soon, that should aid the effort.

[godlameroso]

More Red Bull drinks are being sold than Hondas at the moment. Honda has even had to shut down its U.S. manufacturing. Luckily this seems to be blowing over and things are slowly going back to normal.

[etusch]

That would depend on in season running which we haven't had yet. Some hardware changes can only be validated on track, so this has put a damper on development.

Some improvements were made after testing data in time for Melbourne. But there is no on track data yet from the updates, nor is it possible to test certain parts. Parts which would guide development of the next spec.

If next update is decided only after track data...but if there is a team working on next update when another is working with current version there may be updates developed at a level. Maybe there will be more to validate on track than melburne spec has...

[Marti_EF3]

The PU are already homologated since Australia, right? They can't run a different spec without taking out an slot for the engine list I think...

[etusch]

The PU are already homologated since Australia, right? They can't run a different spec without taking out an slot for the engine list I think...

I will be happy with that if it is the case.
I think Honda engine was most prepared engine to the season. If nobody change engine they brought to melburne this is advantage for Redbull Honda especially over main rival.

[lio007]

The PU are already homologated since Australia, right? They can't run a different spec without taking out an slot for the engine list I think...

This is a very good question! Australia was cancelled before any car was running on track.
So, do the already installed PU's in Australia count as used PU for the pool?

[aran.vtec]

The PU are already homologated since Australia, right? They can't run a different spec without taking out an slot for the engine list I think...

This is a very good question! Australia was cancelled before any car was running on track.
So, do the already installed PU's in Australia count as used PU for the pool?

From what i understand the car has to leave to pit lane for it to be "counted"

[_cerber1]

I think Honda engine was most prepared engine to the season. If nobody change engine they brought to melburne this is advantage for Redbull Honda especially over main rival.

Both Renault engines passed the full distance of the tests, they were not even removed once.

[Bill]

But Renault didn't bring much in the form of additional power from what they had from last year.

[_cerber1]

But Renault didn't bring much in the form of additional power from what they had from last year.

In tests, no one was chasing power and speed. In general, I find quite ridiculous the comments of people who say that the RB or Honda were the best prepared. Therefore, I made the same comment about Renault engines.

[etusch]

But Renault didn't bring much in the form of additional power from what they had from last year.

In tests, no one was chasing power and speed. In general, I find quite ridiculous the comments of people who say that the RB or Honda were the best prepared. Therefore, I made the same comment about Renault engines.

Renault can be like you said but my point was that I was talking about mercedes as I assume that Redbull and Mercedes will fight for title. I mean Mercedes has some reliability issues.
After that a bit about Ferrari. I expect they will show lower profile than most powerful engine profile of last year because of obvious things. So in fact I didn't consider Renault.

[Big Tea]

I would assume all manufacturers would have some upgrade to the engine that turned up in Aus. They worked to a deadline of getting a well tested engine out and into the car by that time.
Since the time the engines were shipped there would have been many hours of bench running and several new ways to make the same components even if not different design components between then and now. Even just the time allowed to make parts that were almost off the drawing board (screen anyway) or even on the test engine but had not run enough hours to be sure.
Am I right in thinking it will be just this engine and one more for the whole season? they must save every hour of running they can if so and a new engine would be installed anyway.

[lio007]

The PU are already homologated since Australia, right? They can't run a different spec without taking out an slot for the engine list I think...

This is a very good question! Australia was cancelled before any car was running on track.
So, do the already installed PU's in Australia count as used PU for the pool?

From what i understand the car has to leave to pit lane for it to be "counted"

If this is really the case, then Merc are very lucky guys. They had some issues in pre-season testing PU-wise. They of all teams would propably benefit the most.